topny element v sklokeramickej varnej doske

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Dne 8.7.2015 v 15:13 Jaroslav Buchta napsal(a):
> Aha, s tim triakem to ale jde s par soucastkama R,C,a nejakym 
> potenciometrem, zapojeni bude na netu spousta.
> Jeste me napadlo kuchnout nejaky spotrebic, co ma plynule rizeni 
> vykonu (vysavace, vrtacky...) a treba vymenit triak a potenciometr...
>
>
> Dne 8. 7. 2015 v 15:10 peter tesar napsal(a):
>> Problem je ze ja som elektronik amater len na istej urovni poznania. 
>> Trafo 220/110 zhodou okolnosti mam a jeho princip chapem. Seriovu 
>> diodu vhodnych parametrov (staru RFT SY 180/10) tiez mam a princip 
>> jej ucinku chapem. Termoclanok/PT100, PID aj SSR, to tiez vsetko mam, 
>> chapem a zvladnem pospajat.
>>
>> Fazovu regulaciu s triakom a plynulou regulaciou uz neviem navrhnut.
>>
>> PID ureguluje stredny vykon, keby som tam mal nejaku tepelnu 
>> kapacitu. Zial chcem polozit teflonove nadobky priamo na platnu a 
>> bojim sa tepelnych spiciek pri zapnuti na plnych 2kW.
>>
>> Peter.
>>
>>
>>
>> Jaroslav Buchta wrote:
>>> Proc tam jednoduse nedat triak (nebo SSR) a vykon neridit fazovou 
>>> regulaci nebo vynechavanim pulperiod skoro plynule???
>>> Bude to mit velikost krabicky od cigaret a ne nejaka desetikilova 
>>> potvora...
>>>
>>> Dne 8. 7. 2015 v 14:12 peter tesar napsal(a):
>>>> Preco nie, trafo 230/120 na 500W, tusim co ho mam je az na 
>>>> kilowatt, nie je to ziadna velka hroza.
>>>>
>>>> Pid to asi neureguluje, mozno ho ani potrebovat nebudem. Chcem na 
>>>> tom ohrievat teflonove nadobky (kadicky) a v casoch zapnutia 
>>>> spiraly sa mi ta teplota zda prilis velka. Potrebujem byt bezpecne 
>>>> pod 200 stupnov.
>>>>
>>>> Peter.
>>>>
>>>> Robert Baranka wrote:
>>>>> Ked si predstavim to trafo 230/120V...
>>>>> A ten PID to neureguluje?
>>>>> Robo
>>>>>
>>>>> Dňa 8. 7. 2015 14:01 Zuffa Jan  wrote / napísal(a):
>>>>>> Staci dat vhodne dimenzovanu diodu do serie.
>>>>>> V elektrarni z toho nebudu nadseni ale fungovat to bude
>>>>>>
>>>>>> j.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>> From: Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces na list.hw.cz] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>> Šerých Jakub
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:47 PM
>>>>>> To: HW-news
>>>>>> Subject: RE: topny element v sklokeramickej varnej doske
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Obycejny odporova spirala na keramickem nosici.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jakub Serych
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces na list.hw.cz] On Behalf Of 
>>>>>>> peter
>>>>>>> tesar
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 08, 2015 1:44 PM
>>>>>>> To: HW-news
>>>>>>> Subject: topny element v sklokeramickej varnej doske
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Zdravim,
>>>>>>> rad by som sa opytal, aky topny element sa pouziva v beznych
>>>>>>> sklokeramickych platnickach. Pod sklom vidiet pri zapnuti taku
>>>>>>> rozzeraveny akoby prerusovanu spiralu. Je to jednoplatnicka, ma 
>>>>>>> 2000W
>>>>>>> a hodil by sa mi nizsi vykon. Keby som to mohol napajat cez trafo
>>>>>>> 230/120V, to by mala okolo 500W, idealne pre mna. Regulacia by bola
>>>>>>> dorobena externe, cez PID regulator.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Preto na zaujima, ci je to len obycajny odporovy element, alebo 
>>>>>>> nejaka
>>>>>>> kremenna vybojka alebo take nieco, s elektronikou, co potrebuje 
>>>>>>> plne
>>>>>>> napatie 230V. Termostat je tam zda sa obycajny mechanicky, normalne
>>>>>>> cvaka a iskri pri zapnuti/vypnuti (to vidiet cez to sklo).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dakujem.
>>>>>>> Peter.
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