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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">C2 ma stejnou funkci jako Cin, tam
keramika asi taky staci.Otazka je, jestli by vadila jako Cf, kdyz
bude na vysoke napeti, napetova zavislost kapacity by se nemela
vyznamne projevit. Jina negativa me nenapadaji.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 22.01.2025 v 11:02 Róbert Šuška
napsal(a):<br>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>Do
vyrobenej doštičky si už dcéra osadila rezistory a dneska
nás čaká pokračovanie, kondenzátory atď. Tak som sa chcel
opýtať, aby bol výsledok čo najlepší, aké druhy
kondenzátorov zvoliť. Mám na mysli keramické/fóliové. Jedná
sa mi o Cin, Cf a C2. Skúsim si tipnúť Cin keramika Cf a C2
fóliové?</span></p>
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From: Hw-list <hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz> On Behalf
Of Vláďa Anděl<br>
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2025 11:08 AM<br>
To: hw-list@list.hw.cz<br>
Subject: Re: Predzosilňovač k piezo meniču akustickej
gitary</span><span></span></a></p>
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<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>My
jsme
experimentovali s krystalem z přenosky, ale taky to nebylo
ono. <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>Pak
jsem někde v
bazaru sehnal krystalové mikrofony. To byl v principu <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>taky
krystal ze
siegnettovy soli, ale byl větší. Ten krystal z mikrofonu <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>byl
povoskovaný,
aby k němu nemohla vlhkost a nic nevydržel, hodně se <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>lámal.
Takže se
zase nedal přilepit. Nějak to hrálo, ale strčit do <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>kytary
mikrofon
bylo skoro lepší.<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>Anděl<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>Dne
13.01.2025 v
22:52 Pavel Kutina napsal(a):<span></span></span></p>
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Tedy jestli
správně tuším, jak jste starý, tak "za našich mladých let" <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
nikdo ani
neuvažoval o tom, že by ten křemíkový výbrus použil k něčemu
<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
tak
přízemnímu, jako je snímání zvuku, a ještě navíc z kytary :)<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>><span> </span></span></p>
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Ale vážně -
první piezosnímač na akustiku jsem si kupoval až pár let <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
po
revoluci, předtím jsem experimentoval s pípákem z
(nefunkčních) <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
pašovaných
digitálek, ale nějak to nebylo ono. A ono by to možná bylo <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
ono, kdyby
to už tenkrát dostalo odpovídající hodněvysokoimpedanční <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
předzesilovač
a ne jen ten overdrive s KC509F, do kterého jsem to <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
připojoval
já :)<span></span></span></p>
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Pavel
Kutina<span></span></span></p>
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<</span><a href="mailto:vaelektronik@vaelektronik.cz"
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Subject:
Re: Predzosilňovač k piezo meniču akustickej gitary<span></span></span></p>
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Dne
13.01.2025 v 20:29 Pavel Kutina napsal(a):<span></span></span></p>
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Odkaz
na Ali se mi neotevírá (prázdná stránka, nevím proč), ale <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
jestli
to nemá žádnou svoji "inteligenci", pak je to opravdu nutné
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
připojovat k předzesilovači s velkým vstupním odporem, což
zapojení z <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
třetího
odkazu není (ten je pro vinuté snímače).<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
A
vzhledem k tomu, že s tím určitě budete kroutit a testovat,
co co <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
ovlivňuje, tak bych šel v první fázi podle obr 3 (protože je
<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
jednodušší a výsledek bude slyšet hned), v druhé fázi k tomu
u číňana <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
koupíte
celý předzesilovač s EQ a ladičkou... <span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Mám
podobný v kytaře a funguje, jen to chce trochu truhlařiny.<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>><span> </span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Pavel
Kutina<span></span></span></p>
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To: </span><a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"
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Sent:
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Subject: Predzosilňovač k piezo meniču akustickej gitary<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Za
našich mladých let se do takového předzesilovače dal jeden <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
tranzistor. Tehdy BF245, protože to byl jediný, co se dal
sehnat :-) <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Dneska
bych tam dal 2SK209. Nevím, jak je to se šumem OZ, ale
říkalo <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
se, že
vlivem těch velkých záporných zpětných vazeb je ten šum
vyšší, <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
než šum
samotného tranzistoru. Sice ten jeden tranzistor bude mít <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
nějaké
zkreslení, ale asi né zas tak velké, aby vadilo a příznivci
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
elektronek říkali, že 2. harmonická zvuk pročišťuje :-)<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>><span> </span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
Anděl<span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>><span> </span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>><span> </span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>><span> </span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Dobrý večer,<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
dcéra
cvičí na gitaru a chcel by som zostrojiť predzosilňovač pre
<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
piezo
menič, ktorý pripojím na linkový vstup zvukovej karty.
Skorej <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
ako to
spravím chcel som sa opýtať aké zapojenie je na to
najvhodnejšie?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Menič:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
</span><a
href="https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/32905830963.htm"
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<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Na
snímači je trimer ktorý mení kapacitu od cca 500pF do 12nF
merané <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
pri
1kHz.<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Objavil
som zaujímavé zapojenia pre rôzne kapacity piezo meničov:<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
</span><a href="https://sound-au.com/project202.htm"
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://sound-au.com/project202.htm</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Tak si
hovorím, že zapojenie z obrázku 3 bude asi najvhodnejšie a <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
trimrom
na meniči sa krútiť nebude. Nastavím ho na 10nF a bude to <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
fungovať?<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Tu je
ešte jedno zapojenie, ale to prvé sa mi páči viac. Čisto <span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
pocitovo :).<span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
</span><a
href="https://www.eeweb.com/electric-guitar-preamplifier/"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">https://www.eeweb.com/electric-guitar-preamplifier/</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
Ďakujem
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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<p class="gmail-MsoPlainText"
style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
HW-list
mailing list - sponsored by </span><a
href="http://www.HW.cz"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.HW.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
</span><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
</span><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
HW-list
mailing list - sponsored by </span><a
href="http://www.HW.cz"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.HW.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>>
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style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
HW-list
mailing list - sponsored by </span><a
href="http://www.HW.cz"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.HW.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="margin:0cm 0cm 0.0001pt;font-size:11pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"><span>>
</span><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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HW-list
mailing list - sponsored by </span><a
href="http://www.HW.cz"
style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">www.HW.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="color:rgb(5,99,193);text-decoration:underline"
moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</span></span></a><span><span></span></span></p>
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moz-do-not-send="true"><span><span
style="color:windowtext;text-decoration:none">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</span></span></a><span></span><span></span></p>
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HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a>
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