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    <p>Díval jsem se a je to spíš toto
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.belza.cz/simple/pisk.htm">http://www.belza.cz/simple/pisk.htm</a> čím zkouším.</p>
    <p>Jirka</p>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 30.05.2024 v 14:00 Michal Grunt
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      <div dir="ltr">Možná spíš toto? Strana 5.
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        <div><a
href="https://www.ok1khl.com/storage/mladez/Soubor_stavebnich_navodu_pro_krouzky.pdf"
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">čt 30. 5. 2024 v 13:37
          odesílatel Michal Grunt <<a
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          napsal:<br>
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          <div dir="auto">Není to něco takového?
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            <div dir="auto"><a
href="https://www.high-voltage-lab.com/202/continuity-tester"
                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
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            <div dir="auto">Nebo</div>
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href="https://www.eeweb.com/continuity-tester-circuit-diagram/"
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            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Dne čt 30. 5. 2024 7:55
              uživatel Nesvacil Jiri <<a
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                <p>Na zjištění zkratu používám multivibrátor, někde v AR
                  bylo schéma na vstupu to má ochranné diody tj. malé
                  napětí, hlavně slyším vybíjení kondenzátorů či zkrat.
                  Měřidlem si nedokáži úplně představit. Menší kapacity
                  se tím poznají hůře či menší odpory, ale oproti měření
                  ohmetrem.... . Někde vyšel taky c-beeper, ale tady
                  zrovna nepoužívám a nevím zda tady by byl ideální.</p>
                <p>Jirka<br>
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                <div>Dne 30.05.2024 v 7:10 Michal Grunt napsal(a):<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">Jaké proudove omezeni máte nastaveno?
                    Děkuji.</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Dne st 29. 5. 2024
                      22:04 uživatel Jan Kuba <<a
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                      <div dir="ltr">Já hledám tak, že tam připojím
                        třeba 1V a měřím napětí v jednotlivých částech
                        napájecí sběrnice. Při větším proudu ( je třeba
                        omezení I) 
                        <div>už je poznat třeba prstem nebo 
                          termokamerou, který kond je ve zkratu...</div>
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                        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">st 29. 5. 2024
                          v 21:54 odesílatel Michal Grunt <<a
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                          <div dir="auto">Mám tu jeden notebook, který
                            se chová tak, že po zmacknuti tlacitka pro
                            zapnutí se na 1-5 vteřin zapne a ihned
                            vypne. Po vyzkoušení takoveho toho bezne
                            uzivatelsky mozneho (jina pamet atd.) jsem
                            vyndal desku. Vypadá to, že je ve zkratu
                            část za menici napětí, které napájí CPU.
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                            <div dir="auto">Předpokládejme, že je na
                              vine nějaký z kondenzátoru. Desku jsem
                              prohlédl pod mikroskopem a žádnou
                              destrukci něčeho jsem nenašel. Ani žádný
                              náznak.
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                              <div dir="auto">Kondenzátory pod CPU a
                                část kondenzátoru za menici jsou ve
                                zkratu. Před menici jsou v pořádku
                                (mysleno tak, ze napajeci konektor ve
                                zkratu neni). Na desce je měničů více,
                                ale postižené jsou ty v uctite části
                                desky. Dohromady asi 40 kondenzatoru
                                plus ty pod CPU.</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">Jak v nich najít ten
                                problémový? Osahat jsem to DM v režimu
                                ohmetr a v určitě části jsem nameril
                                minimální odpor. Ale i tak jde o dost
                                kusů kondenzátoru. Pak tu mám ještě tuto
                                konstrukci</div>
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href="http://mcu.cz/news.php?extend.1242.3" rel="noreferrer noreferrer"
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                              <div dir="auto">která meri miliohmy, ale s
                                tím jsem toho take moc nenašel nebo s
                                tím v tomto režimu neumí... Viděl jsem
                                videa jak s tím autor zkraty hledá či
                                blíže lokalizuje, ale nějak se nedaří.</div>
                              <div dir="auto"><br>
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                              <div dir="auto">Snad tam "injektovat"
                                napětí postupne na ruzna mista a měřit
                                odběr?</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">Děkuji</div>
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                              <div dir="auto">MG</div>
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