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<p>Zdravím,</p>
<p>hrabu se tady v detailech toho mého bastlu toho 10MHz normálu.</p>
<p>Tak jak to běží teď jsou lokální oscilátor 10MHz a signál 1.25MHz z GPS navázané na tu 74HCT4046 tak nějak klasicky. Tzn. přes kondensátor 1uF, za ním je dělič 47k do +5 a 10k na zem. Vše funguje jak má.</p>
<p> Kolega Valuch má v tom svém návrhu (tedy přesněji, v návrhu jeho diplomanta) zařazený navíc filtr:</p>
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<p>Což je OK, protože oba vstupní signály v jeho řešení mají kmitočet 1.25 MHz.</p>
<p>Zařadit filtr je jistě dobré, aby se to nechytalo třeba na vyšší harmonickou. Jenže jak ten filtr přepočítat pro kmitočet 10 MHz ? Já se bez mučení přiznám, že tyhle věci jsem uměl kdysi dávno, ale nějak mi to vypadlo z hlavy.</p>
<p>Našel jsem si kalkulačku tohoto typu filtru na https://cz.key-components.com/tools/butterworth-pi-lc-low-pass-filter-calculator.html a zkusil jsem to. Jenže jsem narazil na jeden problém. Ta kalkulačka chce zadat impedanci<br>
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<p> Z0 ať už je to cokoli.</p>
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<p>Dal jsem tam pokusně 50 Ohmů, protože naprosto netuším jaká hodnota by tam měla být. V datasheetu 74HCT4046 se nic o vstupní impedanci nepíše a v datasheetu toho Rb standardu je jen uvedeno, že na výstupu dává 0.5Vrms do 50 Ohmového zatížení.</p>
<p>Takže mám dvě otázky.</p>
<p>1. Jakou impedanci bych tam měl vlastně zadat a kde to vyčtu/vypočítám ?</p>
<p>2. Pokud bychom to nechali pro 50 Ohmů, jak lze zpětně spočítat, jak se změní hodnota frekvence když použiju komponenty z řady E12 ? Tedy např. L1,L3 = 1 uH, L2=1.5uH a C1,C4 = 150pF a C2,C3 = 560 pF. Je na to nějaký jednoduchý přepočet nebo je lepší si
to odsimulovat v KiCADu ?<br>
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<p>Zdraví PavelK</p>
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