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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">1.6W uz mi ale prijde hodne malo, to si
      radsi priplatim. A neni to ze skladu v EU, takze problemy s
      proclenim a dalsi poplatky, to taky nemam rad...<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 17.03.2024 v 16:13 Marek Sembol
      napsal(a):<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">No jak jsem uz pred 2 dny psal: mam toto: <a
href="https://ortur.net/en-eu/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112"
          moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://ortur.net/en-eu/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112</a>
        prave kvuli cene ($130) a prostoru :) Presne na sablony
        kupovana.
        <div>BR,</div>
        <div>Marek</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at
          12:50 PM Šerých Jakub <<a href="mailto:Serych@panska.cz"
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tolik peněz (a hlavně
                    prostoru) do toho právě investovat nechci. Mě by se
                    líbilo něco, co bude pálit tak do rozměrů 15 x 15 cm
                    a bude stát tak polovinu.
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jakub Šerých </span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Hw-list <<a
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                        <b>On Behalf Of
                        </b>Jaroslav Buchta<br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 17, 2024 9:56 AM<br>
                        <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"
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                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: Jakou volit vypalovačku -
                        bylo šablony</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Na rezani sablon do papiru by
                      stacilo treba tohle? <a
href="https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004530393919.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.4346hyY4hyY4cf&algo_pvid=cd23edcc-9fd4-400a-b591-45b6c1bbb687&aem_p4p_detail=2024031701365515481434792379680003525295&algo_exp_id=cd23edcc-9fd4-400a-b591-45b6c1bbb687-9&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CZK%216570.92%215256.69%21%21%21277.24%21221.79%21%402101e7a317106646155105718ee320%2112000036232587244%21sea%21CZ%21168115937%21&curPageLogUid=QX592K1NgB0t&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A&search_p4p_id=2024031701365515481434792379680003525295_10"
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                        SCULPFUN S9 with Laser Rotary Roller 90W Effect
                        Laser Engraving Machine Ultra-thin Laser Acrylic
                        Engraver Cut Machine 410x420mm - AliExpress</a></p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Nebo je potreba neco za nasobne
                      vyssi cenu, nebo ma nekdo nejaky zaruceny tip?
                      Nabidka provedeni mi prijde tak nejak podobna u
                      ruznych prodejcu...</p>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Dne 16.03.2024 v 10:06 Marek
                      Sembol napsal(a):</p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal">Ja volil toto: <a
href="https://ortur.net/en-en/collections/laser-engraving-machine/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112"
                          target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"
                          class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://ortur.net/en-en/collections/laser-engraving-machine/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112</a>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Duvody: cena smesna (ted
                          jeste smesnejsi nez pred temi 2? roky co jsem
                          to kupoval), velmi kompaktni (mam malo mista,
                          takze 30x40cm pri pouzivani a 30x15cm pri
                          uskladneni to 'vyhralo'). <br>
                          Zkusenosti: ucel plni perfektne. Koupil jsem
                          si 'za suche z nosu' nekolik "jezku" na
                          spojovani tramu (nahrada za drahy honeycomb) a
                          taky slouzi dobre. Palim z papiru gramaze 160.
                          Osvedcilo se mi sablonu pred pouzitim pretrit
                          tavidlem at nezere tavidlo z pasty (ale kdyz
                          zapomenu, taky se nic nestane). Vyhoda u tech
                          papirovych sablon je, ze nejsou problem
                          scenare typu 'postupne osazovani', opravy, a
                          podobne - nuzky na papir prizpusobi sablonu na
                          neosazeny prostor :) </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Jinak k tem sablonam z
                          plechu: Mnozi vyrobci (vcetne JLCPCB) umozni
                          nechat si udelat sablonu mensi. Jednak se s
                          tim mnohem lepe v amaterskych podminkach
                          pracuje, lepe se to skladuje a vaha (takze i
                          postovne) je mnohem mensi. Takze kdyz
                          objednavam sablonu, volim velikost PCB
                          zvetsenou asi 3-4cm obema smery.</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">BR,</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">Marek</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Mar 16, 2024 at
                          8:54 AM Petr Labaj <<a
                            href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz" target="_blank"
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                          wrote:</p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">3D tiskárna a laserová
                          hlava.<br>
                          Laser rozhodně s FAC.<br>
                          Pro řízení Arduino se firmware GRBL.<br>
                          Ale asi to jde i s nějakým tím Marlinem nebo
                          se tam dneska používá.<br>
                          Pro ovládání pak free SW LaserGRBL.<br>
                          <br>
                          PL<br>
                          <br>
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                          Dne 16.3.2024 v 8:44 Šerých Jakub napsal(a):<br>
                          > Ano, souhlasím s panem Zahradníkem, že na
                          domácí bastlení je asi nejlepší si šablonu na
                          pastu vypálit laserem. Jednu profi jsem si
                          kdysi nechal udělat u JLCPCB. Byla sice
                          perfektní, ale $2 za 5ks malinkých destiček a
                          $7 za šablonu velkou jako
                          <a href="http://kr.va" target="_blank"
                            moz-do-not-send="true">kr.va</a> (zhruba A3,
                          asi nějaký normalizovaný formát do
                          sítotiskových strojů) a díky tomu potom
                          nejlevnější poštovné kolem $20. Tedy místo
                          obvyklých cca $3 cca $30 a to se mi kvůli
                          jedné bastlhračce fakt nevyplácí. (A ještě se
                          s tou velikou šablonou blbě manipuluje.) Proto
                          už dlouho přemýšlím o nějaké minivypalovačce,
                          která by to zvládla, protože to leptání zabere
                          spoustu času a crcání. (Mimochodem to
                          podleptání není až takový problém, stačí si
                          plošky malinko zmenšit, aby se s tím počítalo,
                          a lept může být klidně kónický.)<br>
                          > Doporučíte nějaké pokud možno levné a
                          hlavně malé řešení pro vypalování papíru typu
                          běžná čtvrtka o velikosti max 15 x 15 cm?
                          Myslím, že nic jiného na tom pálit nebudu
                          chtít. Postavit sám (3D tiskárnu mám)? Koupit
                          nějakou stavebnici z Číny? Jakým směrem se mám
                          začít rozhlížet? Jaké parametry jsou u toho
                          důležité?<br>
                          ><br>
                          > Díky za vaše zkušenosti!<br>
                          ><br>
                          > Jakub Šerých<br>
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