<div dir="ltr">Mno vzhledem k tomu, ze to ten laser VYPALUJE.... je z toho svinsky koure :( Takze nejspis vyhodila :)<div>BR,</div><div>Marek</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at 7:18 PM Jaroslav Buchta <<a href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz">jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><u></u>

  
    
  
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    <div>A tak to jsem si nevsimnul, asi to
      zvazim, vetsi laser na t oasi muzu koupit vzdycky. Na tiskarnu ani
      osazovacku se mi to davat nechce, tiskarna jede obden a asi to
      produkuje i nejake svinstvo, to by me manzelka z obyvaku kde mam
      osazovacku uz vyhodila ;-)<br>
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    <div>Dne 17.03.2024 v 19:13 Marek Sembol
      napsal(a):<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Jasne, kazdy jak chce. Jen 3 poznamky:
        <div>- ja to na sablony pouzivam a OK, pali se papir :)</div>
        <div>- pisou tax included</div>
        <div>- shipping free</div>
        <div>Ale provizi z toho nemam, tak nemam duvod nekoho lamat :-D</div>
        <div>BR,</div>
        <div>Marek</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 17, 2024 at
          6:07 PM Jaroslav Buchta <<a href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz" target="_blank">jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz</a>>
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            <div>1.6W uz mi ale prijde hodne malo, to si radsi
              priplatim. A neni to ze skladu v EU, takze problemy s
              proclenim a dalsi poplatky, to taky nemam rad...<br>
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            <div>Dne 17.03.2024 v 16:13 Marek Sembol napsal(a):<br>
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              <div dir="ltr">No jak jsem uz pred 2 dny psal: mam toto: <a href="https://ortur.net/en-eu/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112" target="_blank">https://ortur.net/en-eu/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112</a>
                prave kvuli cene ($130) a prostoru :) Presne na sablony
                kupovana.
                <div>BR,</div>
                <div>Marek</div>
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                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, Mar 17, 2024
                  at 12:50 PM Šerých Jakub <<a href="mailto:Serych@panska.cz" target="_blank">Serych@panska.cz</a>>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Tolik peněz (a hlavně
                            prostoru) do toho právě investovat nechci.
                            Mě by se líbilo něco, co bude pálit tak do
                            rozměrů 15 x 15 cm a bude stát tak polovinu.
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jakub Šerých </span></p>
                        <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Hw-list
                                <<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>>
                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaroslav Buchta<br>
                                <b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 17, 2024 9:56
                                AM<br>
                                <b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>
                                <b>Subject:</b> Re: Jakou volit
                                vypalovačku - bylo šablony</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Na rezani sablon do
                              papiru by stacilo treba tohle? <a href="https://vi.aliexpress.com/item/1005004530393919.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.main.19.4346hyY4hyY4cf&algo_pvid=cd23edcc-9fd4-400a-b591-45b6c1bbb687&aem_p4p_detail=2024031701365515481434792379680003525295&algo_exp_id=cd23edcc-9fd4-400a-b591-45b6c1bbb687-9&pdp_npi=4%40dis%21CZK%216570.92%215256.69%21%21%21277.24%21221.79%21%402101e7a317106646155105718ee320%2112000036232587244%21sea%21CZ%21168115937%21&curPageLogUid=QX592K1NgB0t&utparam-url=scene%3Asearch%7Cquery_from%3A&search_p4p_id=2024031701365515481434792379680003525295_10" target="_blank">
                                SCULPFUN S9 with Laser Rotary Roller 90W
                                Effect Laser Engraving Machine
                                Ultra-thin Laser Acrylic Engraver Cut
                                Machine 410x420mm - AliExpress</a></p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Nebo je potreba neco za
                              nasobne vyssi cenu, nebo ma nekdo nejaky
                              zaruceny tip? Nabidka provedeni mi prijde
                              tak nejak podobna u ruznych prodejcu...</p>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal">Dne 16.03.2024 v 10:06
                              Marek Sembol napsal(a):</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Ja volil toto: <a href="https://ortur.net/en-en/collections/laser-engraving-machine/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112" target="_blank">https://ortur.net/en-en/collections/laser-engraving-machine/products/aufero-laser1-best-portable-laser-engraver?variant=40675503997112</a>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Duvody: cena smesna
                                  (ted jeste smesnejsi nez pred temi 2?
                                  roky co jsem to kupoval), velmi
                                  kompaktni (mam malo mista, takze
                                  30x40cm pri pouzivani a 30x15cm pri
                                  uskladneni to 'vyhralo'). <br>
                                  Zkusenosti: ucel plni perfektne.
                                  Koupil jsem si 'za suche z nosu'
                                  nekolik "jezku" na spojovani
                                  tramu (nahrada za drahy honeycomb) a
                                  taky slouzi dobre. Palim z papiru
                                  gramaze 160. Osvedcilo se mi sablonu
                                  pred pouzitim pretrit tavidlem at
                                  nezere tavidlo z pasty (ale kdyz
                                  zapomenu, taky se nic nestane). Vyhoda
                                  u tech papirovych sablon je, ze nejsou
                                  problem scenare typu 'postupne
                                  osazovani', opravy, a podobne - nuzky
                                  na papir prizpusobi sablonu na
                                  neosazeny prostor :) </p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Jinak k tem
                                  sablonam z plechu: Mnozi
                                  vyrobci (vcetne JLCPCB) umozni nechat
                                  si udelat sablonu mensi. Jednak se s
                                  tim mnohem lepe v amaterskych
                                  podminkach pracuje, lepe se to
                                  skladuje a vaha (takze i postovne) je
                                  mnohem mensi. Takze kdyz
                                  objednavam sablonu, volim velikost PCB
                                  zvetsenou asi 3-4cm obema smery.</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">BR,</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Marek</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">On Sat, Mar 16,
                                  2024 at 8:54 AM Petr Labaj <<a href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz" target="_blank">labaj@volny.cz</a>>
                                  wrote:</p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">3D tiskárna a
                                  laserová hlava.<br>
                                  Laser rozhodně s FAC.<br>
                                  Pro řízení Arduino se firmware GRBL.<br>
                                  Ale asi to jde i s nějakým tím
                                  Marlinem nebo se tam dneska používá.<br>
                                  Pro ovládání pak free SW LaserGRBL.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  PL<br>
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                                  Dne 16.3.2024 v 8:44 Šerých Jakub
                                  napsal(a):<br>
                                  > Ano, souhlasím s panem
                                  Zahradníkem, že na domácí bastlení je
                                  asi nejlepší si šablonu na pastu
                                  vypálit laserem. Jednu profi jsem si
                                  kdysi nechal udělat u JLCPCB. Byla
                                  sice perfektní, ale $2 za 5ks
                                  malinkých destiček a $7 za šablonu
                                  velkou jako <a href="http://kr.va" target="_blank">kr.va</a>
                                  (zhruba A3, asi nějaký normalizovaný
                                  formát do sítotiskových strojů) a díky
                                  tomu potom nejlevnější poštovné kolem
                                  $20. Tedy místo obvyklých cca $3 cca
                                  $30 a to se mi kvůli jedné bastlhračce
                                  fakt nevyplácí. (A ještě se s tou
                                  velikou šablonou blbě manipuluje.)
                                  Proto už dlouho přemýšlím o nějaké
                                  minivypalovačce, která by to zvládla,
                                  protože to leptání zabere spoustu času
                                  a crcání. (Mimochodem to podleptání
                                  není až takový problém, stačí si
                                  plošky malinko zmenšit, aby se s tím
                                  počítalo, a lept může být klidně
                                  kónický.)<br>
                                  > Doporučíte nějaké pokud možno
                                  levné a hlavně malé řešení pro
                                  vypalování papíru typu běžná čtvrtka o
                                  velikosti max 15 x 15 cm? Myslím, že
                                  nic jiného na tom pálit nebudu chtít.
                                  Postavit sám (3D tiskárnu mám)? Koupit
                                  nějakou stavebnici z Číny? Jakým
                                  směrem se mám začít rozhlížet? Jaké
                                  parametry jsou u toho důležité?<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Díky za vaše zkušenosti!<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Jakub Šerých<br>
                                  ><br>
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