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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Kolega již rok a půl provozuje tento systém (akumulace – prodej když je draho ) a říká, že to každý měsíc nějakou tisícovku hodí, ale bývalo to lepší – trh se pomalu posouvá a podobných elektráren hodně přibylo.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>J.V.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Hw-list <hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vláďa Anděl<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:54 PM<br><b>To:</b> hw-list@list.hw.cz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: OT Spotové tarify<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Zatím to nemám v provozu a tedy nemám zkušenosti, ale předpokládám, že v rámci možností budu využívat baterku. Dávat energii do sítě, když je nejdražší - tedy ve špičkách. Problém baterky je, že pokud se nebude využívat tak, aby každý den udělala jeden cykl, uplyne její časem omezená životnost (prý 15 let), aniž by se využila její životnost v počtu cyklů. Takže když si spočítáte cenu akumulované energie jen při běžném chodu domácnosti, vyjdou vám docela šílené ceny. Ale pokud vám baterku z větší části zaplatila dotace, není to s tou ekonomikou provozu tak špatné :-) Samosřejmě že ani se spotovýma cenama to na nějaký větší výdělek není. Baterka je za 2 hodiny nabitá a pak už není energii kam dávat. S baterkou ze starého elektroauta cca 60 KWh a za levno by to bylo zajímavější.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Anděl<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 03.08.2023 v 10:24 Jirka Mww napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Tak nějak nevím, jak by se vyplatily ty spotové ceny, když mám FVE. Pokud svítí, je elektřina zadarmo nebo za záporné ceny, takže dodávka do sítě by se mi nevyplatila, a pokud nesvítí, zaplatil bych as víc než současnou fixovanou cenu. Lepší se mi jeví ukládat přebytky v rámci tarifu pro soláry. Mimochodem, jak se řeší v případě domácí malé FVE ty záporné ceny ? <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Zdravi<br>Jirka Sloupenský OK1MWW<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div id=DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellpadding=0 style='border:none;border-top:solid #D3D4DE 1.0pt'><tr><td width=55 style='width:41.25pt;border:none;padding:9.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=46 height=29 style='width:.4791in;height:.302in' id="_x0000_i1025" src="https://s-install.avcdn.net/ipm/preview/icons/icon-envelope-tick-round-orange-animated-no-repeat-v1.gif"></span></a><o:p></o:p></p></td><td width=470 style='width:352.5pt;border:none;padding:9.0pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:#41424E'>Neobsahuje žádné viry.<a href="https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail" target="_blank"><span style='color:#4453EA'>www.avast.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>čt 3. 8. 2023 v 9:21 odesílatel AZe <<a href="mailto:aze@seznam.cz">aze@seznam.cz</a>> napsal:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>A muzete prozradit noveho dodavatele? Resil jsem prechod nedavno...<br>aze<br><br>-----Původní zpráva----- <br>From: Admin HWnews<br>Sent: Wednesday, August 02, 2023 5:31 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>Subject: Re: OT Spotové tarify<br><br>Zrovna ted davam vypoved nenezranemu EONu...po 21 letech. V poslednich<br>mesicich se cena pohybovala u meho noveho dodavatele mezi 2000-2500Kc<br>bez DPH za MWh.<br><br>Tam kam pujdu je to takto:<br>=============================================================<br>Celkov<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span> cena z<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>kazn<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ka pro dan<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span> m<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>s<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>c se odv<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>j<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span> od hodinov<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ch cen<br>velkoobchodn<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ho trhu a hodinov<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ch odb<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>r<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span> dan<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ho<br>odb<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>rn<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>ho m<span style='font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>�</span>sta. 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