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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE-AT link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Vyzkum to urÄŤitÄ› bude.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>UvidĂte jak moc se s tĂm nakonec budete chtĂt hrát.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Co dÄ›lajĂ BMSky, tak měřà kterĂ˝ ÄŤlánek má jakou kapacitu, dá se to logovat. PoÄŤĂtajĂ I kolik mAh se balancovalo (na to je dobr</span><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ă˝ právÄ› ten proud balastem) a vĂ tak kolik se to od minulĂ© session rozhodilo<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Balancovat tak jde teoreticky i dopĹ™edu dĹ™Ăve neĹľ ÄŤlánek dosáhne balanÄŤnĂho napÄ›tĂ.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>StejnÄ› potĹ™eba ÄŤlánky pravidelnÄ› srovnat a vyresetovat tak SOC<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> Tzn donutit nabĂjeÄŤ aby vytáhl napÄ›tĂ na nÄ›co jako 3,5 x poÄŤet ÄŤlánku a pohlĂat Ĺľe všechny na to napÄ›tĂ došly.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A k tomu je právÄ› dobrĂ© umÄ›t Ĺ™Ăct mÄ›niÄŤi cĂlovĂ© napÄ›tĂ a proud.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Zkoušel jste poÄŤĂtat jako to moc bude tu desku hřát? NebojĂte se mechanickĂ©ho namáhá desky teplotou? PrávÄ› proto bych buÄŹ nedÄ›lal desku z jednoho kusu, nebo tĹ™eba doplnil nÄ›jakĂ© mechanickĂ©/tepelnĂ© oddÄ›lenĂ toho balastu od zbytku desky.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>A taky doplnil otvory na lepšà proudÄ›nĂ vzduchu a opÄ›t, bych se pĹ™imlouval za to teplotnĂ ÄŤĂdlo aby se dal omezit proud balancovánĂ kdyĹľ se bude deska pĹ™ehĹ™Ăvat.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Balancery co mám majĂ 1,6A a kdyĹľ jedou, tak v pohodÄ› hodnÄ› brzo dosáhnout limitnĂ teploty.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ZajĂmavĂ© pro zjištÄ›nĂ zdravĂ baterek je i měřenĂ samovybĂjenĂ a vnitĹ™nĂho odporu ÄŤlánkĹŻ.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Jaká bude konfigurace systĂ©mu?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Pavel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Hw-list <hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaroslav Buchta<br><b>Sent:</b> stĹ™eda 4. kvÄ›tna 2022 20:58<br><b>To:</b> hw-list@list.hw.cz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FVE - stavba LIFEPO baterie.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Jeste k tomu balancovani - proud mam max neco pres 1A a rizeny PWM.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Predpokladam, ze kdyz zjistim stav nabijeni, vezmu rozdil napeti mezi nejslabsim a nejsilnejsim clankem a zohlednim nabijeci proud. Nad 10A nejsilnejsi clanek dostane 100% a ostatni pomerne. Pod 10A to nejak proporcionalne snizim. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>To by melo clanky behem par cyklu snad srovnat.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Bude to zajimavy vyzkum.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 04.05.2022 v 20:53 Jaroslav Buchta napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Z toho projektu jsem vychazel.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pevna roztec na clanky ktere mam, mi prijde OK, jednoducha montaz. Nepredpokladam, ze bych to recykloval, baterka by me mela prezit.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Mereni teploty ma ten MCU, nepredpokladam nejak velke nabijeci proudy, havarii to snad zachyti.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Proud odporem se snadno spocita z napeti, proc ho merit? Mosfet mam schvalne predimenzovany, ten ma odpor zanedbatelny<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Odpojeni baterky memu menici nevadi, to jsem jiz zkousel manualnim vypinacem. Ale jeste to resit budu, komunikace s nim je velmi problematicka, v podstate se da jen monitorovat, ridit nejde nic. Proto mam spinany mosfety extra, nejdriv odpojim jednu sekci, proud pujde diodami v mosfetech a napeti skoro o volt vyskoci. To by melo motivovat menic ke snizeni proudu nebo ukonceni nabijeni. Uplne odpojeni az pri opravdu kritickem stavu.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Propojovaci pasek dam pod desky, clanek ma velkou plochu kontaktu tak to snad pobere (clanky mam 50Ah, zvazoval jsem 100 ale ty mely min cyklu, i kdyz je to asi Cinska hodnota... kazdopadne po nejake dobe provozu a degradaci clanku z tech dvou predpokladam sestavim aspon jednu pouzitelnou baterii)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Nad tim bude neco s ESP32 ktere bude vse monitorovat, logovat a mit webove rozhrani.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 04.05.2022 v 20:40 Pavel UrbanÄŤĂk napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>StavÄ›l jsem pár baterek a jednu provozuju </span><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>(32x200Ah Winston) s Batrium BMS</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Pár komentĹŻ k BMS</span><o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=1 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>NedÄ›lal bych na ÄŤlánek s pevnou rozteÄŤĂ, ale jen na jednu svorku a druhĂ˝ na vodiÄŤ</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Doplnil bych měřenĂ teploty terminálu baterky, balancovacĂ odpory daleko od terminálu, s měřenĂm teploty</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Měřil bych proud balancovacĂm odporem</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>JakĂ˝ vĂ˝znam má to odpojovánĂ baterky? PoÄŤĂtejte Ĺľe pokud to bude na solárce a BMSka odpojĂ baterku, tak umĹ™e MPPT a moĹľná i mÄ›niÄŤ.</span><o:p></o:p></li><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>DĹŻleĹľitejšà je podle mÄ› komunikace s mÄ›niÄŤem, tzn CAN, RS485, atd.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><ol style='margin-top:0cm' start=6 type=1><li class=MsoListParagraph style='margin-left:0cm;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Na baterky je nejlepšà montáž pomocĂ stavÄ›cĂch šroubĹŻ, tzn do baterky natoÄŤĂm stavÄ›cà šroub, dám propojku, podloĹľku, pĂ©rovku, matku a BMSku a dalšà matku. Deskou tak neteÄŤe proud.</span><o:p></o:p></li></ol><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Toto nevyhovuje?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://github.com/stuartpittaway/diyBMSv4"><span lang=EN-US>GitHub - stuartpittaway/diyBMSv4: Version 4 of the diyBMS</span></a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US>Pavel</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='mso-fareast-language:EN-US'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US> Hw-list <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz"><hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz></a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaroslav Buchta<br><b>Sent:</b> stĹ™eda 4. kvÄ›tna 2022 19:51<br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz">hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: FVE - stavba LIFEPO baterie.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Zrovna na tom pracuji, dnes jsem dodelal DPS pro BMS a balancery (na kazdem clanku bude desticka, zretezena komunikace).<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Urcite se podelim, az to bude nejak funkcni.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>A nebo nakonec, publikovat to nehodlam, rad budu, kdyz tam nekdo najde vcas zasadni konstrukcni nedostatek. BMS hodlam vyztuzit dle potreby dratama na DPS, ma to vydrzet trvale tak 30A, spickove 50A (2 baterky budou paralelne)Je to v KiCad 6 (uz si zvykam, az na par drobnosti je to pokrok proti predchozi verzi)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.hascomp.cz/DesignLIFEPO.zip">https://www.hascomp.cz/DesignLIFEPO.zip</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 04.05.2022 v 19:42 Pavel KratochvĂl napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal>ZdravĂm, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>já bohuĹľel ne, ale uvaĹľuji o tom. Na pokusy mám na cestÄ› 16x105Ah LiFePO4, tj. na 48V 5kWh.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Pavel<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>---------- PĹŻvodnĂ e-mail ----------<br>Od: Miroslav Draxal <a href="mailto:evik@volny.cz"><evik@volny.cz></a><br>Komu: 'HW-news' <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"><hw-list@list.hw.cz></a><br>Datum: 4. 5. 2022 19:23:46<br>PĹ™edmÄ›t: FVE - stavba LIFEPO baterie. <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=-wm-msonormal>DobrĂ˝ den vespolek<o:p></o:p></p><p class=-wm-msonormal>Je tu nÄ›kdo, kdo si stavÄ›l velkokapacitnĂ baterii k FVE? 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