<div dir="ltr">Pořád jsem jsem jen  ve stadiu Ăşvah . Mám zatĂ­m jen jednu nezávaznou nabĂ­dku na 12 panelĹŻ, 4.5kWp a 9kWh baterky za 204 000 KÄŤ vÄŤetnÄ› všeho papĂ­rovánĂ­.  Ale váhám, jestli do toho jĂ­t.  Celkovou spotĹ™ebu má náš velkĂ˝ dvougeneraÄŤnĂ­ dĹŻm cca 6MWh  ve vysokĂ©m tarifu a 2.5MWh  v nĂ­zkĂ©m tarifu. To je v podstatÄ› jen bojler a filtrace v bazĂ©nu.  Nic jinĂ©ho na ten nĂ­zký tarif nezapĂ­ná.  MusĂ­m si udÄ›lat nÄ›jakou excelovou tabulku , do kterĂ© to všechno shrnu, ale potĹ™eboval bych nejdřív nÄ›jaká data o spotĹ™ebÄ› v ÄŤase , jak pĹ™es den tak  v roce, aby to celĂ© dalo smysl.  Proto by mÄ› zajĂ­malo to ÄŤtenĂ­ elektromÄ›ru.  Nebo moĹľná i podruĹľnĂ˝ elektromÄ›r do rozvaděče s nÄ›jakou RS485 , abych to mohl ÄŤĂ­st a ukládat.  JeštÄ› to musĂ­m promyslet.  Taky by bylo zajĂ­mavé spoÄŤĂ­tat, jestli by se vyplatilo nabĂ­jet v zimÄ›, kdyĹľ FVE nic nedává,  ty baterky ze sĂ­tÄ› v dobÄ› nĂ­zkĂ©ho tarifu, kterĂ˝ je cca 3x levnÄ›jší neĹľ vysokĂ˝ tarif.  <br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Zdravi<br>Jirka SloupenskĂ˝ Â OK1MWW</div></div><br></div><div id="DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2"><br> <table style="border-top:1px solid #d3d4de">
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<a href="#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2" width="1" height="1"></a></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">po 10. 1. 2022 v 17:35 odesĂ­latel Vláďa AndÄ›l <<a href="mailto:vaelektronik@vaelektronik.cz">vaelektronik@vaelektronik.cz</a>> napsal:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>Mohu se jen tak orientaÄŤnÄ› zeptat, za
      kolik to dneska dÄ›lajĂ­? Teda pokud vám to dÄ›lá nÄ›kdo jinĂ˝, neĹľ
      ÄŚEZ. U ÄŚEZu jsou ty ceny nehoráznĂ©. UvaĹľuju o FV cca 5-6 KWp, ale
      bez baterky, jen mÄ›niÄŤ do sĂ­tÄ›.</div>
    <div>AndÄ›l</div>
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    <div>Dne 10.1.2022 v 16:50 Jirka Mww
      napsal(a):<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">DĂ­ky, tahle informace o sklonu a azimutu mi nÄ›jak
        unikla.  Â Mám nabĂ­dku na 4.5kWp , teÄŹ Ĺ™eším jestli do toho pĹŻjdu
        a kam to dám.  
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            <div dir="ltr">Zdravi<br>
              Jirka SloupenskĂ˝ Â OK1MWW</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">po 10. 1. 2022 v 15:53
          odesĂ­latel AZe <<a href="mailto:aze@seznam.cz" target="_blank">aze@seznam.cz</a>>
          napsal:<br>
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                <div>Skoro pĹ™esnÄ› na jih, cca 45°. V okolĂ­ nenĂ­ nic, co
                  by stĂ­nilo.</div>
                <div>aze</div>
                <div> </div>
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                      <div><b>From:</b> <a title="jirka.mww@gmail.com" href="mailto:jirka.mww@gmail.com" target="_blank">Jirka
                          Mww</a> </div>
                      <div><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 09, 2022 9:28 AM</div>
                      <div><b>To:</b> <a title="hw-list@list.hw.cz" href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">HW-news</a>
                      </div>
                      <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: FVE - základnĂ­ poznatky</div>
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                  <div>Tohle mÄ› zajĂ­má, mám nabĂ­dku taky na 4,8kWp, kam
                    to máte smerovane a pod jakĂ˝m Ăşhlem sklonu? </div>
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                    <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">Dne so 8. led 2022
                      22:38 uĹľivatel AZE <<a href="mailto:aze@seznam.cz" target="_blank">aze@seznam.cz</a>>
                      napsal:<br>
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                            <div>FVE 5 kWp, monokrystaly,  prosinec 2021
                              150 kWh...</div>
                            <div>aze</div>
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                                  <div><b>From:</b> <a title="honza.kuba@gmail.com" href="mailto:honza.kuba@gmail.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">Jan Kuba</a>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, January
                                    08, 2022 9:06 PM</div>
                                  <div><b>To:</b> <a title="hw-list@list.hw.cz" href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">HW-news</a>
                                  </div>
                                  <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: FVE -
                                    základnĂ­ poznatky</div>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Já tomu stále nerozumĂ­m....
                                co chcete v zimÄ› z tĂ© FV napájet a kdy?
                                <div>Kolega , co má instalovanĂ˝ch 10kW (
                                  ĹˇpiÄŤkovĂ˝ vĂ˝kon ) mi za loňskĂ˝ rok
                                  prezentoval data z vĂ˝roby.</div>
                                <div>Mimochodem vĂ­te kolik panelĹŻ je 
                                  tĹ™eba na 10kWh? </div>
                                <div>Vyrobilo mu to za rok 11,8 MWh  , z
                                  toho za  prosinec, leden, Ăşnor   jen
                                  190kWh . To je v prĹŻmÄ›ru 63kWh/mÄ›sĂ­c.</div>
                                <div>Neboli  2kWh/den. A to ne stále,
                                  jsou dny co nic a pak to za den udÄ›lá
                                  ranec, kdyĹľ je jasno.</div>
                                <div>Pravda je, Ĺľe tam obÄŤas ( pár dnĹŻ
                                  )  mÄ›l snĂ­h a byl lĂ­nĂ˝ ho sundavat.</div>
                                <div>Tohle opravdu je k niÄŤemu, v zimÄ›
                                  to NEFUNGUJE, NEFUNGUJE, NEFUNGUJE!</div>
                                <div>KdyĹľ tĂ­m budu dotápÄ›t vodu v
                                  boileru tak mám v kapse v prĹŻmÄ›ru
                                  10-15 kÄŤ/den (v zimÄ›) - má to smysl? </div>
                                <div>UĹľ vĹŻbec ale nechápu to TÄŚ.</div>
                                <div> </div>
                                <div>Já s tĂ­m mám osobnĂ­ zkušenost u
                                  jednoho ostrovnĂ­ho systĂ©mu ( Wifi
                                  "repeater") kde je spotĹ™eba okolo 5W.</div>
                                <div>Je tam jeden 200W panel a  i s
                                  bateriĂ­ 12V/200Ah to nepĹ™eĹľije jedinĂ˝
                                  zimnĂ­ mÄ›sĂ­c.</div>
                                <div>Od dubna  do Ĺ™Ă­jna tam je naopak
                                  skoro trvale dobito.</div>
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div class="gmail_attr" dir="ltr">so 8.
                                  1. 2022 v 20:20 odesĂ­latel Vláďa AndÄ›l
                                  <<a href="mailto:vaelektronik@vaelektronik.cz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">vaelektronik@vaelektronik.cz</a>>
                                  napsal:<br>
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                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="padding-left:1ex;margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)">Taky jsme uvaĹľovali
                                  k přítelkyni dát svislĂ© panely, aby
                                  dÄ›laly nejvĂ­c <br>
                                  energie v zimÄ›. Má TÄŚ s frekvenÄŤnĂ­m
                                  mÄ›niÄŤem, takĹľe by se paralelnÄ› k <br>
                                  usmÄ›rnÄ›nĂ©mu napÄ›tĂ­ ze sĂ­tÄ› pĹ™ipojil
                                  vĂ˝stup 550V z MPPT ze solárĹŻ. TĂ­m <br>
                                  odpadne starost s pĹ™etokama do sĂ­tÄ› a
                                  veškerá energie by se vyuĹľila pro <br>
                                  topenĂ­. Má barák s plochou stĹ™echou a
                                  pokud by byla neprĹŻchodná varianta <br>
                                  s panely vodorovnÄ› na stĹ™eše, pĹ™es
                                  lĂ©to cpát energii do sĂ­tÄ› a v zimÄ› si
                                  <br>
                                  ji brát na topenĂ­, tohle by byla
                                  alternativa. JenĹľe na jiĹľnĂ­ stÄ›nu nad
                                  <br>
                                  oknama a okolo oken se tÄ›ch panelĹŻ moc
                                  nevejde a kdyĹľ vidĂ­m, jak je v <br>
                                  zimÄ› krátkĂ˝ den a Ĺľe málo kdy slunĂ­ÄŤko
                                  vyleze, nejspíš by to byly <br>
                                  vyhozenĂ© penĂ­ze.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  AndÄ›l<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Dne 8.1.2022 v 15:36 Martin Záruba
                                  napsal(a):<br>
                                  > JednoznaÄŤnÄ› je vĂ˝chod-západ
                                  vĂ˝hoda. V zimÄ› je to skoro jedno a v
                                  lĂ©tÄ› <br>
                                  > máte vĂ˝kon rozloĹľenĂ˝ v rámci dne.
                                  MyslĂ­m, Ĺľe z toho je jediná vĂ˝jĂ­mka, <br>
                                  > a to pokud máte elektromobil. Pak
                                  je jakákoli FVE malá a chcete z nĂ­ <br>
                                  > proto vymaÄŤkat co jde.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Martin Záruba<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Dne 7.1.2022 v 15:50 Josef Ĺ Ă­p
                                  napsal(a):<br>
                                  >> Jde to spoÄŤĂ­tat, mĹŻĹľete
                                  porovnávat optimalni umisteni s Vasimi
                                  <br>
                                  >> moznostmi montaze<br>
                                  >> <a href="https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/#PVP" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank">https://re.jrc.ec.europa.eu/pvg_tools/en/#PVP</a><br>
                                  >> Osobne bych vychod/zapad
                                  videl jako vyhodu....<br>
                                  >> J.S.<br>
                                  >><br>
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                                  On Behalf Of <br>
                                  >> <a href="mailto:kral.j@centrum.cz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">kral.j@centrum.cz</a><br>
                                  >> Sent: Friday, January 7, 2022
                                  3:29 PM<br>
                                  >> To: <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>
                                  >> Subject: RE: FVE - základnĂ­
                                  poznatky<br>
                                  >><br>
                                  >> Taky jsem se dostal do fáze
                                  otázek, jestli ano nebo ne. MĹŻj
                                  základnĂ­ <br>
                                  >> problĂ©m je orientace domu.
                                  Jedna strana stĹ™echy je na vĂ˝chod,
                                  druhá <br>
                                  >> na západ. Pak je ještÄ›
                                  moĹľnost využít stÄ›nu smÄ›rem na jih. Co
                                  si <br>
                                  >> myslĂ­te o tĂ© svislĂ©
                                  instalaci? PĹ™i svĂ˝ch cestách jsem to
                                  nÄ›kde vidÄ›l, <br>
                                  >> ale abych se mohl zeptat na
                                  zkušenosti, musĂ­m si vzpomenout, kde
                                  to <br>
                                  >> bylo.<br>
                                  >> Král<br>
                                  >>
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