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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">O teto vychytavce slysim poprve, to
      jako proc?</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Jinak bych pouzil normalni LIDL
      nabijecku, funguje ve spouste rezimu, vcetne udrzovaciho, dobre.</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 06.04.2021 v 21:24 Jirka Mww
      napsal(a):<br>
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      <div dir="auto">Diky, u meho auta se taky nesmi nabijet na minus
        polu baterky, je tam na kostre takova placka pro pripojeni
        nabijecky. </div>
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          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">út 6. 4. 2021 v 20:52
            odesílatel Aleš Filip <<a
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            napsal:<br>
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              <div> Dobrý den, <br>
                <br>
                Moje auto dobíjí na 14.7V Udělal bych (nebo koupil v
                číně) normálně zdroj CC CV 14.7V 1A, a vždycky ho
                přicvaknul po zaparkování na +pól baterky a kostru (u
                mého auta se nesmí připojovat na -pól baterky).<br>
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                <pre cols="72">-- 
 Aleš Filip
 Kutná Hora
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              <div>Dne 06.04.2021 v 17:49 Jirka Mww napsal(a):<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Díky, mysle jsem si, že bych něco
                  ubastlil ze šrotu co tady mám, ale za tyhle peníze si
                  to asi rozmyslím. 
                  <div>Těch 14V/600mA   co to dává  by tedy byla  ta 
                    správná hodnota ?  Tzn. nabíjení 600mA až po 14V a
                    pak vypnutí ? </div>
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                      <div dir="ltr" data-smartmail="gmail_signature">Zdravi<br>
                        Jirka Sloupenský  OK1MWW</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">út 6. 4. 2021
                    v 17:45 odesílatel Martin Hanek <<a
                      href="mailto:martin@hanek.net" target="_blank"
                      moz-do-not-send="true">martin@hanek.net</a>>
                    napsal:<br>
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                    <div> Třeba: <a
href="https://www.eshopautodoplnky.cz/nabijecka-baterii-absaar-udrzovaci"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.eshopautodoplnky.cz/nabijecka-baterii-absaar-udrzovaci</a><br>
                      Jde jen o to, abyste měl zásuvku zapalovače
                      připojenou při vypnutém klíčku.<br>
                      <pre cols="72">Martin Hanek</pre>
                      <div>Dne 06.04.2021 v 17:38 Jirka Mww napsal(a):<br>
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                        <div dir="ltr">Když už je tady tohle téma - mám
                          problém s baterkou v mé Octavii. Je to diesel
                          a vzhledem k pandemii skoro vůbec nejezdím,
                          jen jednou za týden nakoupit cca 7 km ,
                          přičemž je to řada startů a rozjezdů.
                          <div>Takže se baterka asi nestihne dobít. <br>
                            <div>Auto začalo hlásit slabou baterii, tak
                              jsem ji jednorázově dobil a budu to teď
                              dělat po každém návratu z nákupu. Líbilo
                              by se mi ale něco, co bych tam nechal
                              trvale připojené, nejlépe v zásuvce 12V. </div>
                            <div>Jaké napětí/proud by takovéto udělátko
                              mělo dodávat ? Baterka je 65 Ah.  Omlouvám
                              se za BFU dotaz, ale dřív jsem jezdil
                              skoro každý den a tak jsem se do podobné
                              situace nikdy nedostal. </div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Zdravi<br>
                                  Jirka Sloupenský  OK1MWW</div>
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                          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">út 6. 4.
                            2021 v 13:32 odesílatel Pavel Poucha <<a
                              href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">pavel.poucha@papouch.com</a>>
                            napsal:<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Tohle napětí se používá v
                                zabezpečovacích ústřednách pro gelové
                                akumulátory. Vydrží určitě několik let. 
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                                              <div dir="ltr">S pozdravem<br>
                                                ing. Pavel Poucha<br>
                                                jednatel<br>
                                                <a
                                                  href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">pavel.poucha@papouch.com</a><br>
                                                Tel. +420 777 232 485<br>
                                                <br>
                                                Papouch s.r.o. - vývoj<br>
                                                Papouch store s.r.o. -
                                                obchod</div>
                                              <div>Papouch production
                                                s.r.o. - výroba</div>
                                              <div dir="ltr"><br>
                                              </div>
                                              <div dir="ltr">Máte-li
                                                chuť, navštivte naše
                                                stránky <a
                                                  href="http://www.papouch.com/"
                                                  target="_blank"
                                                  moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.papouch.com/</a></div>
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                                <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">út 6.
                                  4. 2021 v 13:17 odesílatel Martin
                                  Záruba <<a
                                    href="mailto:swz@volny.cz"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">swz@volny.cz</a>>
                                  napsal:<br>
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                                  style="margin:0px 0px 0px
                                  0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
                                  rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Takže
                                  byste doporučoval u klasické olověné
                                  baterie maximální napětí, <br>
                                  13,8V? Myslím hlavně z hlediska
                                  životnosti.<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Máte představu, jak dlouho má naději
                                  vydržet autobaterie, která bude <br>
                                  stát na místě a bude mít optimální
                                  rozsah napětí nabito/vybito?<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Martin Záruba<br>
                                  <br>
                                  Dne 6.4.2021 v 13:10 Pavel Poucha
                                  napsal(a):<br>
                                  > V našich zařízeních udržujeme
                                  napětím 13.6 - 13.8V. Akumulátor je
                                  pak <br>
                                  > nabitý na ca 80% kapacity.. Na
                                  100% by to muselo být něco <br>
                                  > sofistikovanějšího.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > S pozdravem<br>
                                  > ing. Pavel Poucha<br>
                                  > jednatel<br>
                                  > <a
                                    href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">pavel.poucha@papouch.com</a>
                                  <mailto:<a
                                    href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">pavel.poucha@papouch.com</a>><br>
                                  > Tel. +420 777 232 485<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Papouch s.r.o. - vývoj<br>
                                  > Papouch store s.r.o. - obchod<br>
                                  > Papouch production s.r.o. -
                                  výroba<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > Máte-li chuť, navštivte naše
                                  stránky <a
                                    href="http://www.papouch.com/"
                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.papouch.com/</a>
                                  <br>
                                  > <<a
                                    href="http://www.papouch.com/"
                                    rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.papouch.com/</a>><br>
                                  ><br>
                                  ><br>
                                  > út 6. 4. 2021 v 12:19 odesílatel
                                  <<a
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                                  > <mailto:<a
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                                    target="_blank"
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                                  napsal:<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Ahoj, já pro tyto účely
                                  používám zdroje Meanwell s UPS funkcí
                                  (asi<br>
                                  >     AD-155A, AD-55A). Akorát je
                                  to náročnější na prostor.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     M.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     *From:* Hw-list <<a
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                                  *On Behalf Of *Pavel Kadečka<br>
                                  >     *Sent:* Tuesday, April 6,
                                  2021 8:30 AM<br>
                                  >     *To:* HW-news <<a
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                                  >     *Subject:* Zalohovany zdroj
                                  12V s PB aku<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Přátelé,<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     jak na zálohovaný zdroj 12V?
                                  S olověným akumulátorem.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Něco jsem už na koleně
                                  postavil, ale zajímá mě i názor
                                  někoho, kdo<br>
                                  >     to už řešil.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Nejjednodušší je zdroj 14,2V,
                                  dioda, plus baterie (a další dioda,<br>
                                  >     asi nepovinná). Aku se nabíjí
                                  na 13,5V, není omezený proud, resp.<br>
                                  >     je omezený proudem zdroje -
                                  to u spínaného znamená, že po zapnutí<br>
                                  >     do vybitého aku cykluje,
                                  místo aby naskočil hned.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Další varianta je zdroj
                                  14,2V, dioda, dioda (ta tam nutně být<br>
                                  >     nemusí). Mezi diodami je
                                  odbočka, kde je paralelní kombinace
                                  odpor<br>
                                  >     a dioda a to na plus pól aku:
                                  pokud běží zdroj, aku se nabíjí<br>
                                  >     proudem, omezeným odporem.
                                  (Paralelní dioda je v závěrném směru.)<br>
                                  >     Pokud zdroj neběží, dioda je
                                  v propustném směru a baterie živí<br>
                                  >     výstup. Odpor je jednoduché
                                  omezení nabíjecího proudu, ale<br>
                                  >     nevýhoda je, že aku se tak
                                  nabíjí dlouho.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     (Ty nepovinné diody tam mám
                                  pro případ dalšího adaptéru jako<br>
                                  >     zálohy - kdyby odešel ten
                                  napájecí / nabíjecí zdroj.)<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Mělo by to zálohovat router
                                  na internet (jakýkoliv, vesměs to<br>
                                  >     všechno jede na 12V adaptér).
                                  Stalo se mi, že mi tu na vteřinu<br>
                                  >     vypadl proud, což až tolik
                                  nevadí, protože jedu na notebooku, tak<br>
                                  >     mi jen na chvíli zhasly
                                  monitory. Co vadí, je ten internet,<br>
                                  >     protože se restartuje router
                                  a padne mi i připojení do firemní<br>
                                  >     sítě - o data nepřijdu, ale
                                  je to otravné (zvlášť když se to stane<br>
                                  >     dvakrát za den), pak chvíli
                                  trvá opět navázání spojení.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Samozřejmě, neovlivním druhou
                                  stranu (tedy výpadek u providera<br>
                                  >     internetu).<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >     Pavel Kadečka.<br>
                                  ><br>
                                  >   
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              moz-do-not-send="true">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>
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