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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Když už to sledujete - všude se grafy
      počtu nakažených zobrazují v lineárním měřítku a je z toho docela
      prd vidět. Naklafal jsem počty nakažených v ČR do excelu a
      zobrazil jsem si to logaritmicky. Ta čára je dost hrbatá, ale byla
      docela rovná. Až poslední 2-3 dny se to trochu odchyluje dolů.
      Pokud to není jen nepřesnost v datech (jsou to na statistiku malá
      čísla), už se opatření aspoň trochu projevují.</div>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Anděl</div>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 17.3.2020 v 11:53 Tomas Urbanek
      napsal(a):<br>
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      v televizi se toho namluvi kvanta, ale k realite to ma casto hodne
      daleko :)
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      <div class="">Nejsou zadne informace, ze by v nemecku bylo
        pomerove stejne pacientu s tezkym prubehem na ventilatorech ci
        mimotelnim okyslicovani (kdyz je tedy maji k dispozici) jako v
        It. Podle dostupnych dat to vypada, ze vetsina pacientu v
        nemecku ma relativne mirny prubeh. Jina (“lepsi”) pece neni
        zatim, pokud vim, znama. Tedy postup predchazeni tezkemu prubehu
        je v nemecku i italii identicky - tedy zadny. V It ma tezky
        prubeh mnohem vetsi podil lidi a i rada mladsich lidi. A tezky
        prubeh predchazi nutnost pouzit prislusne vybaveni. Neni to tedy
        pricina vetsiho vyskytu tezsich prubehu. </div>
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      <div class="">Vysveteleni rozdilu v poctu zachycenych v nemecku vs
        italii je dost nejasne. Jelikoz pokud bychom pripustili, ze
        nemci zachyti 100% nakazenych (asi ani oni ne), je pak realna
        mira mortality cca 0.2% a v tom pripade, by Italie musela mit
        aktualne pres milion nakazenych. I kdyz i to je mozne.</div>
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      <div class="">Nedelam z toho zadne zavery. Jen me to pred tydnem
        docela upoutalo, kdyz jsem se dival na primarni data. A jak to
        sleduju, trend se stale drzi.</div>
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            <div class="">On 17 Mar 2020, at 09:03, Libor <<a
                href="mailto:xlibor@tiscali.cz" class=""
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">V televizi mluvili hlavně o
                  stavu zdravotnictví, o počtu těch ventilátorů, o
                  vyšším věku Italů, a hlavně ten nárust počtu nemocných
                  byl v Itálii extrémní...</div>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Libor<br class="">
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 17.03.2020 v 8:40
                  Turbyho napsal(a):<br class="">
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">me by ale spise zajimalo proc
                    je mortalita v It dlouhodobe vysoka - 7% a v nemecku
                    dlouhodobe nizka - 0.2%. a uz to neni jen
                    pocacetecni statisticke zkresleni.</div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">obecne to vypada, ze jizni
                    zeme zatim vykazuji vyssi mortalitu oproti severneji
                    polozenym zemim. </div>
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                  <div dir="ltr" class="">jsem dost zvedavy jestli se
                    tento trend udrzi.</div>
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                    <blockquote type="cite" class="">17. 3. 2020 v 8:24,
                      Zuffa Jan <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E"
                        href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk"
                        moz-do-not-send="true"><ZuffaJ@cgc.sk></a>:<br
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                            class="">Ano, PCR je hrniec s arduinom...<o:p
                              class=""></o:p></span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                                  class="">From:</span></b><span
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                                class=""> Hw-list [<a
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                                <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Turbyho<br
                                  class="">
                                <b class="">Sent:</b> 17. marca 2020
                                8:19<br class="">
                                <b class="">To:</b> HW-news<br class="">
                                <b class="">Subject:</b> Re: OT: Tak nám
                                zabili Ampéra... baliky ?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">podle toho mala co o tom
                            vim z dob kdy jsem jezdil servisovat po
                            laboratorich se obecne pouzivaji metody PCR
                            nebo ELISA.<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">vice by nam k tomu ale
                            asi rekl Petr Kubac :)<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">17. 3. 2020
                            v 7:32, Zuffa Jan <<a
                              href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk"
                              moz-do-not-send="true" class="">ZuffaJ@cgc.sk</a>>:<o:p
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                                class="">Tu sa tiez natiska otazka, akej
                                farby je virus :)</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                class="">Kedze ma velkost niekolko sto
                                nm vo viditelnom spektre to nebude.</span><o:p
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                                class="">Analyza pomocou elektronoveho
                                mikroskopu nie je vhodna pre masove
                                testovanie</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                class="">DYI mikroskop asi nenajdete ale
                                pristroj na analyzu DNA je v celku bezna
                                DYI vec.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                class="">este potrebujete testovaci kit
                                a hrniec s arduinom ktory namnozi DNA :)</span><o:p
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                                class="">20 termocyklov namnozi DNA o
                                2^20 krat</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                      class="">From:</span></b><span
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                                    class=""> Hw-list [<a
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                                    <b class="">On Behalf Of </b>Jirí
                                    Nesvacil<br class="">
                                    <b class="">Sent:</b> 16. marca 2020
                                    20:45<br class="">
                                    <b class="">To:</b> <a
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                                    <b class="">Subject:</b> Re: OT: Tak
                                    nám zabili Ampéra... baliky ?</span><o:p
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                            <p class="">Odhaduji, ze to musi byt neprima
                              metoda. Elektronovy mikroskop asi kazdy
                              nema a zjistit to s nim asi taky nebude
                              lehke.  Hledal jsem i zda neni nejaky DIY
                              projekt na elektronovy mikroskop, ze bych
                              zkusil.... , ale nic nenasel. <o:p
                                class=""></o:p></p>
                            <p class="">Treba nekdo ma v kapse ?<o:p
                                class=""></o:p></p>
                            <p class="">Jirka<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal">Dne 16.03.2020 v
                                20:36 Aleš Filip napsal(a):<o:p class=""></o:p></p>
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                                <p class="MsoNormal">Dobrý den, <br
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                                  Jak to vůbec ve vzorku hledají? Něco
                                  do toho nalijí, a ono to buď zčervená,
                                  nebo zezelená, nebo ty viry hledají
                                  pod mikroskopem?<br class="">
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                                  S pozdravem,<br class="">
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                                  <o:p class=""></o:p></p>
                                <pre class="">-- <o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
                                <pre class=""> Aleš Filip<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
                                <pre class=""> Kutná Hora<o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
                                <pre class=""> <a href="http://xanadu.khnet.info/" moz-do-not-send="true" class="">http://xanadu.khnet.info</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre>
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