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Jen pro úplnost: SolidWorks je postavený na jádře Parasolid, který
se licencuje od Siemense. Jinými slovy: výkon a možnosti jsou dány
jádrem, které SolidWorks sám nevyvíjí, kupuje ho. Výkonější verze
jádra Parasolidu jsou k dispozici v řádově dražších CADech. Z mého
laického pohledu je to marketingová strategie, ale mohu se mýlit,
třeba je tam i nějaký technický limit.<br>
mpap<br>
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On 1. 10. 2015 11:48, Petr FILIPEC wrote:<br>
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se už dostal k systémům
od BOXX Technologies, což je pravděpodobně nejlepší
dostupný hw v této oblasti,
tak Vám asi neporadím.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Spíš mě zaráží,
že i v roce 2015 výrobce sw
není schopen paralelizovat výpočetní úlohy. To je
tristní. Protože potom při
použití Nvidia Tesla nebo Inte Phi technologií by se
řešení těchto úloh smrsklořádově
na hodiny.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Hw-list
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf
Of </span></b>Jaroslav Meduna<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, October 01, 2015
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> '<st1:personname
w:st="on">HW-news</st1:personname>'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
RE: CAD workstation</span></font><font color="black"
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face="Calibri"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D">O cenu
marginalne nejde, rozpocet je 4k$
(v tomto ohledu to smeruje k vysimu modelu
ThinkStation Pxxx). Dekuji za info v
konferenci i privatne. Hlavnim problemem neni 3D
vizualizace, tam je to OK i na
beznem PC. Problemy zacnou v okamziku, kdy neexistuje
SW pracujici na multicore
technologii nebo se na vypoctu nepodili GK. Prikladem
budiz zmineny Cam express
NX, ktery jede jenom na jednom jadru a pocita z
projektu data pro CNC masinu.
To je v bezne situaci celkem casove narocna uloha a o
to tady jde, aby to
netrvalo "tejden". Pokud to potom zanalyzujete,
zjistite, ze GK na to
ma skoro nulovy vliv, disk temer zanedbatelny (data
jsou v RAMce a vysledek,
ktery to uklada je maly), RAM je dost (3D program ji
moc nepotrebuje –
bezne staci 8GB a CAM je bezne 32 bitovy, a pokud je
64 bitovy, opet typicky
potrebuje <3 GB), cele to skonci na hrube sile
jednoho jadra. Specialni
firmy pak na trhu nabizeji workstation navrzene na co
nejvyssi vykon jednoho
jadra (pro predstavu treba Boxxtech). Nechtel bych,
aby to vyznelo, ze neni
potreba mit Quadro, SSD a dostatek RAM, ale CPU se
jevi aktualne jako nejhure
resitelny problem. Pekny den, JM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold">From:</span></font></b><font
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext"> Hw-list
[<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] <b><span
style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Petr
FILIPEC<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Thursday, October 01, 2015
10:53 AM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> '<st1:personname
w:st="on">HW-news</st1:personname>'<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
RE: CAD workstation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Pokud používáte
3D modeláře, tak hodně
důležité je mít alespoň základní OpenGL kartu (Nvidia
Quadro, AMD Firepro).
Rychlost počítače hodně ovlivní i použití SSD hdd nebo
SAS hdd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Bohatě stačí tato
sestava:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy"><a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://pc.bazos.cz/inzerat/52040721/HP-Z400.php"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://pc.bazos.cz/inzerat/52040721/HP-Z400.php">http://pc.bazos.cz/inzerat/52040721/HP-Z400.php</a></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="navy" size="2"
face="Arial"><span style="font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Jinak hledej tyto
keyword: pracovní
stanice, workstation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Hw-list [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Kubat
Tomas<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, September 30,
2015 9:23 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
w:st="on">HW-news</st1:personname><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b>
RE: CAD workstation</span></font><font color="black"
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b><a
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b>
Wednesday, September 30,
2015 9:09 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <st1:personname
w:st="on">HW-news</st1:personname><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="2"
face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt">Dobrý
večer,<br>
<br>
používáme SolidWorks 2011, který některé operace
taktéž neumí rozložit na více
jader. Proto se musel vybrat PC s procesorem s co
největší frekvencí. V našem
případě jsme pořídili jednoprocesorovou pracovní
stanici Intel Xeon E3-1270 v3
na 3.5 GHz, která našim požadavkům vyhoví.<br>
Kolegové na ni provozují i EdgeCAM a SolidEdge.
Pracovní stanice je z řady Dell
Precision T1700, kterou aktuálně asi nahrazuje
nějaký novější model.<br>
<br>
S pozdravem<br>
mpap<br>
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On 30. 9. 2015 11:15, Jaroslav Meduna wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><font color="black" size="2"
face="Calibri"><span style="font-size:11.0pt"
lang="EN-CA">hledam tu HW reseni pro CAD pracoviste
(Solid edge + <st1:place w:st="on">Cam</st1:place>
express), ktere by rozumne fungovalo. Problem je v
tom, ze zminovany SW (ale i podobna konkurence)
bezne neumi pracovat s
multicore CPU a vse bezi jen na jednom jadru (i v
roce 2015). Proto bych se rad
zde, v konferenci zeptal, jestli nekdo neumite
doporucit zelezo, na kterem by
to aspon trochu slusne jelo ...</span></font><font
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