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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hmm… Pokud jste se už dostal k systémům
od BOXX Technologies, což je pravděpodobně nejlepší dostupný hw v této oblasti,
tak Vám asi neporadím.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Spíš mě zaráží, že i v roce 2015 výrobce sw
není schopen paralelizovat výpočetní úlohy. To je tristní. Protože potom při
použití Nvidia Tesla nebo Inte Phi technologií by se řešení těchto úloh smrsklořádově
na hodiny.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PF<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> Hw-list
[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf
Of </span></b>Jaroslav Meduna<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 01, 2015
11:16 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">HW-news</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: CAD workstation</span></font><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>O cenu marginalne nejde, rozpocet je 4k$
(v tomto ohledu to smeruje k vysimu modelu ThinkStation Pxxx). Dekuji za info v
konferenci i privatne. Hlavnim problemem neni 3D vizualizace, tam je to OK i na
beznem PC. Problemy zacnou v okamziku, kdy neexistuje SW pracujici na multicore
technologii nebo se na vypoctu nepodili GK. Prikladem budiz zmineny Cam express
NX, ktery jede jenom na jednom jadru a pocita z projektu data pro CNC masinu.
To je v bezne situaci celkem casove narocna uloha a o to tady jde, aby to
netrvalo "tejden". Pokud to potom zanalyzujete, zjistite, ze GK na to
ma skoro nulovy vliv, disk temer zanedbatelny (data jsou v RAMce a vysledek,
ktery to uklada je maly), RAM je dost (3D program ji moc nepotrebuje –
bezne staci 8GB a CAM je bezne 32 bitovy, a pokud je 64 bitovy, opet typicky
potrebuje <3 GB), cele to skonci na hrube sile jednoho jadra. Specialni
firmy pak na trhu nabizeji workstation navrzene na co nejvyssi vykon jednoho
jadra (pro predstavu treba Boxxtech). Nechtel bych, aby to vyznelo, ze neni
potreba mit Quadro, SSD a dostatek RAM, ale CPU se jevi aktualne jako nejhure
resitelny problem. Pekny den, JM<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b><span
style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Petr FILIPEC<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Thursday, October 01, 2015
10:53 AM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> '<st1:PersonName w:st="on">HW-news</st1:PersonName>'<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: CAD workstation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Pokud používáte 3D modeláře, tak hodně
důležité je mít alespoň základní OpenGL kartu (Nvidia Quadro, AMD Firepro).
Rychlost počítače hodně ovlivní i použití SSD hdd nebo SAS hdd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Bohatě stačí tato sestava:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><a
href="http://pc.bazos.cz/inzerat/52040721/HP-Z400.php">http://pc.bazos.cz/inzerat/52040721/HP-Z400.php</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jinak hledej tyto keyword: pracovní
stanice, workstation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>PF<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> Hw-list [<a
href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Kubat Tomas<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 30,
2015 9:23 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">HW-news</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> RE: CAD workstation</span></font><font
size=3 color=black face="Times New Roman"><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:
12.0pt;font-family:"Times New Roman";color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'>treba ? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;color:#1F497D'><a
href="http://www.levne-notebooky-pc.cz/pocitace-znackove/xeon/pracovni-stanice-s-win-7-pro-cz-pc-dell-precision-t1600">http://www.levne-notebooky-pc.cz/pocitace-znackove/xeon/pracovni-stanice-s-win-7-pro-cz-pc-dell-precision-t1600</a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Tahoma><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext'> Hw-list [<a
href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b><a
href="mailto:mpap@quick.cz">mpap@quick.cz</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, September 30,
2015 9:09 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">HW-news</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: CAD workstation<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Dobrý večer,<br>
<br>
používáme SolidWorks 2011, který některé operace taktéž neumí rozložit na více
jader. Proto se musel vybrat PC s procesorem s co největší frekvencí. V našem
případě jsme pořídili jednoprocesorovou pracovní stanici Intel Xeon E3-1270 v3
na 3.5 GHz, která našim požadavkům vyhoví.<br>
Kolegové na ni provozují i EdgeCAM a SolidEdge. Pracovní stanice je z řady Dell
Precision T1700, kterou aktuálně asi nahrazuje nějaký novější model.<br>
<br>
S pozdravem<br>
mpap<br>
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<br>
On 30. 9. 2015 11:15, Jaroslav Meduna wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt'>DD,</span></font><font size=2><span style='font-size:
10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt'>hledam tu HW reseni pro CAD pracoviste (Solid edge + <st1:place
w:st="on">Cam</st1:place> express), ktere by rozumne fungovalo. Problem je v
tom, ze zminovany SW (ale i podobna konkurence) bezne neumi pracovat s
multicore CPU a vse bezi jen na jednom jadru (i v roce 2015). Proto bych se rad
zde, v konferenci zeptal, jestli nekdo neumite doporucit zelezo, na kterem by
to aspon trochu slusne jelo ...</span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Calibri><span lang=EN-CA
style='font-size:11.0pt'>Zdravim, JM</span></font><font size=2><span
style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<pre><font size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></span></font></pre><pre><font
size=2 color=black face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a
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