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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 29. 5. 2015 9:56, Peter janiš wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Zdravím
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        <div>Pre serióznu prácu NEODPORÚČAM používať open-source
          vývojové nástroje (viz: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.mikrozone.sk/pluginy/userjournals_menu/userjournals.php?blog.40">http://www.mikrozone.sk/pluginy/userjournals_menu/userjournals.php?blog.40</a>
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    Tak zrovna clanok od tohoto autora by som ako argument nebral. V
    suvislosti s dalsim - podobnym - je zrejme, ze autor ma velmi
    specificky talent pokazit aj to, co nikto iny pokazit nedokaze :)<br>
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        <div>Poznám aj takých, čo to skúsili s open-source a ide im to.
          Podľa mňa, to len výnimka podvrdzuje pravidlo. </div>
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    Myslim, ze uspesnych pouzivatelov open-source nastrojov bude
    podstatne viac, ako uzivatelov komercnych nastrojov. A to nehovorim
    o tom, ze cim dalej tym viac komercnych nastrojoch je zalozenych
    prave na nich.<br>
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    -m-<br>
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        <div>p.j.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2015-05-29 9:49 GMT+02:00 Petr T <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:p.tr@atlas.cz" target="_blank">p.tr@atlas.cz</a>></span>:<br>
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            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Zdravím,<br>
              docela mě zaujala tahle diskuse ohledně ARM a jelikož se
              poohlížím po něčem, co má v sobě trochu více RAM paměti,
              tak tohle by mohlo být to pravé...<br>
              Rád bych se zkušenějších zeptal jaké vývojové prostředí
              používáte nebo doporučujete.<br>
              Jaký HW používáte k programování?<br>
              Na Ebay je třeba tohle:<br>
              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-Link-V2-Shell-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-Programming-Debugger-Unit-/371295635365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5672f1c7a5"
                target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/ST-Link-V2-Shell-STM8-STM32-Emulator-Downloader-Programming-Debugger-Unit-/371295635365?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_2&hash=item5672f1c7a5<br>
              </a><br>
              je to použitelné nebo je lepší použít něco jiného?<br>
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              Díííky<br>
              PeTr<br>
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              <div>Dne 28.5.2015 v 21:10 Jaroslav Buchta napsal(a):<br>
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                <div>Vetsinou od ST (ale je to celkem jedno) a Open
                  Source vyvojove prostredky. Ani by me uz nenapadlo
                  jiny procesor pouzit, kdyz zacinaji na 30Kc v
                  kusovce...<br>
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                  Dne 28. 5. 2015 v 20:33 Zdeněk Lada napsal(a):<br>
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                  <div dir="ltr">A používáte ARM od Atmelu nebo od NXP?
                    Co jsem se díval tak A/D je většinou stejně jen 10
                    bitový...</div>
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                    <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 28. května 2015 19:49
                      Jaroslav Buchta <span dir="ltr"><<a
                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                          href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
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                      napsal(a):<br>
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                          <div>Pouzil jsem XMega v jedne aplikaci, ale
                            po odzkouseni ARMu to IMHO ztraci zcela
                            smysl je pouzivat. Navic jsou nesmyslne
                            drahe a 32 bitu je proste pro programovani
                            velmi pohodlne - netreba premyslet, ze
                            nasobeni/deleni 32b bude trvat podstatne
                            dele nez 8 nebo 16b, proste to trva stejne
                            kratce. operace s float jsou take podstatne
                            rychlejsi a da se to masivne pouzivat,
                            zvlaste pokud je na to HW.<br>
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                            Dne 28. 5. 2015 v 19:01 Zdeněk Lada
                            napsal(a):<br>
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                                <div dir="ltr">Líbí se mi 12 bitový A/D
                                  převodník místo 10 bitového, více 16
                                  bitových PWM kanálů, a hlavně u
                                  dražších modelů to že interně obsahují
                                  D/A převodník. To by mi umožňovalo
                                  navrhnout jednodušší zapojení a
                                  zjednodušilo desku plošných spojů...
                                  Navíc učím studenty, tak bych chtěl
                                  aby pracovaly smikrokotroléry, které
                                  nebudou za pár let zastaralé a mohl
                                  jim poradit s případnými problémy
                                  během vyvíjení aplikace.
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                                  <div>Zdeněk   </div>
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                                  <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 28.
                                    května 2015 18:55 Jaromir Sukuba <span
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                                        href="mailto:jarin.hw@gmail.com"
                                        target="_blank">jarin.hw@gmail.com</a>></span>
                                    napsal(a):<br>
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                                      style="margin:0 0 0
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                                      solid;padding-left:1ex">Ktore
                                      parametre alebo vlastnosti tych
                                      doteraz pouzivanych AVR-iek Vam<br>
                                      uz nestacia? Teda preformulujem
                                      otazku - preco chcete prejst na
                                      Xmega?<br>
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                                        2015-05-28 18:50 GMT+02:00
                                        Zdeněk Lada <<a
                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
                                          href="mailto:zdenek023ster@gmail.com"
                                          target="_blank">zdenek023ster@gmail.com</a>>:<br>
                                        > Pro levné aplikace se mi
                                        jeví vhodný
                                        ATXMEGA16D4-AU/ATXMEGA32A4U-AU 
                                        jakožto<br>
                                        > náhrada Atmega16, dále pak
                                        ATXMEGA128D3-AU místo Atmega128.
                                        Co si o tom<br>
                                        > myslíte?<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Díky,<br>
                                        ><br>
                                        > Zdeněk<br>
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