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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Stačí do přívodu k lustru, lampě,
      paralelně ke svorkám zapojit kondenzátor okolo 10nF/630V.  Odpor
      samozřejmě funguje také, ale kond je elegantnější ( žádná
      spotřeba)  a ještě vám to bude kompenzovat jalovinu....<br>
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      Dne 24.2.2015 23:28, Pavel Kadečka napsal(a):<br>
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        <div>Nešel by světelný okruh zapojit přes nějaký usměrňovač?
          Když bude v drátech stejnosměrné napětí, nebude se moct nic
          nabíjet přes tu kapacitu souběhu vodičů. A svítidlům bude
          přece jedno, jestli mají ss nebo st napětí, klasická je jenom
          žhavé vlákno a všechny úsporky a LEDky mají přece na vstupu
          diodový můstek a pak nějaký DC zdroj a střídač/měnič...<br>
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        <div>Nějaký patřičně dimenzovaný diodový můstek umístit na
          chladič a někam do rozvodnice k jističům.<br>
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        P.K.<br>
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              <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 24. února 2015 23:20 Kuba Jan
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                napsal(a):<br>
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                      Ano, ten soubeh už je kapacita, kterou prochází
                      proud v řádech desítek až stovek microA.  A bílá
                      LED už znatelně svítí při 20 microA.<br>
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                      U těch LED světel to tak nevadí - naopak , máme v
                      chodbě   jednu LED žárovku  ( provedení s 140ks
                      těch malých čipů) a "vypnutá" svítí v noci tak
                      akorát pro orientaci.<br>
                      Horší je, když je v žárovce měnič. Kondenzátor na
                      vstupu se tímto proudem pomalu nabíjí až dosáhne
                      napětí, kdy se měnič spustí.<br>
                      LED problikne a okamžitě náboj kondíku spotřebuje.
                      A celé se to opakuje s cca 1-3 min. periodou . Ta
                      závisí na kapacitě vodičů k vypínači a kapacitě
                      filtračního kondu v LED "žárovce".<br>
                      Stejně to dělají i "úsporky"....<br>
                      Taková "žárovka" v ložnici to je pak radost :-(<br>
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                      Dne 24.2.2015 17:07, Pavel Poucha napsal(a):<br>
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                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Zdravím,

                                to je u LED celkem normální jev. mě
                                stačilo několik metrů souběhu kabelů
                                v sádrokartonu, aby 3W LED svítila i
                                „vypnutá“.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">S
                                  pozdravem</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">ing.

                                  Pavel Poucha</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">jednatel</span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"
                                    target="_blank"><span
                                      style="color:#0563c1">pavel.poucha@papouch.com</span></a></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tel.

                                  +420 777 232 485</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Papouch

                                  s.r.o.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Strašnická

                                  1a, 102 00 Praha 10</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Tel.

                                  +420 272 732 827</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Fax

                                  +420 272 681 232</span></p>
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                                  chuť, navštivte naše stránky <a
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                                    href="http://www.papouch.com/"
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                                      style="color:#0563c1">http://www.papouch.com/</span></a></span></p>
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                                    Hw-list [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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                                    <b>On Behalf Of </b><a
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                                      href="mailto:cipisek.cipr@seznam.cz"
                                      target="_blank">cipisek.cipr@seznam.cz</a><br>
                                    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 24,
                                    2015 1:41 PM<br>
                                    <b>To:</b> <a
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                                    <b>Subject:</b> Zahadny svit?</span></p>
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                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Mame stojaci
                              lampu takova ta klasika se dvema
                              halogenkami <br>
                              Nahore 250W  asi s triakovou regulaci
                              vykonu, na boku klasicka 40W halogenka
                              230V v G9 patici , bez regulace jen
                              On/Off., neco jako toto<br>
                              <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.svitidlakraluvdvur.cz/produkt/stojaci-lampa-79097-22-17"
                                target="_blank">http://www.svitidlakraluvdvur.cz/produkt/stojaci-lampa-79097-22-17</a><br>
                              <br>
                              Nedavno v bocnim svitidlu odesla G9
                              zarovka a pote co jsem v okolnich Bau a 
                              jinych nakupacich nasel jen vyhypovane
                              halogenky v cenach bezmala 200Kc/ks. Jsemi
                              poridil na ebay LED 5W G9 za nejakych 50Kc<br>
                              vypada takto.<br>
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href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-G9-5W-69SMD-LED-Bulb-Lamp-Crystal-Corn-Light-Warm-Pure-White-Replace-Halogen-/281606727470?pt=Iluminaci%C3%B3n&hash=item419111a72e"
                                target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/1X-G9-5W-69SMD-LED-Bulb-Lamp-Crystal-Corn-Light-Warm-Pure-White-Replace-Halogen-/281606727470?pt=Iluminaci%C3%B3n&hash=item419111a72e</a><br>
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                              Vcera dorazila, sviti pekne, ale sviti
                              porad :-)<br>
                              Pokud je vypinac v poloze On sviti jako 5W
                              LED v porovnani s puvodni 40W halogenkou
                              sice trochu mene, ale ne o mnoho.<br>
                              Velke prekvapeni nastalo, pri prepnuti
                              vypinace do polohy OFF, misto zhasnuti se
                              snizil jas, hrubym odhadem  sviti jako 1W
                              LED, ale sviti porad.<br>
                              <br>
                              Zatim jsem to blize nezkoumal, ale
                              vkradaji se dve otazky<br>
                              <br>
                              Kde udelali soudruzi z NDR chybu ?<br>
                              Chovaji se takto vsechny lampy tohoto
                              typu?<br>
                              Pokud onen 1W tece i halogenkou zacina to
                              byt energeticky zajimave, zvlaste kdyz si
                              toho clovek u halogenky nema sanci
                              vsimnout a v ramci uspor se zakazuji
                              zarovky<br>
                              Muj odhad i toto svetlo spina triak nebo
                              neco podobneho a nekudy prosakuje radove
                              5mA.<br>
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                              Ciprian<br>
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