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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=CS link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Ale jen ať tak pan kolega udělá. Bude pak mít z poslechu nezapomenutelný zážitek, a to přece každý audiofil ocení…<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>S pozdravem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ing. 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Ak je to audiofil, tak ho nepresvedcis. Been there, done that. A nie raz.<br><br>Ostatne veci si asi vies domysliet - neviem co je to za zapojenie, ale pri zapnuti (a vypnuti), kym je katoda studena a na anodach je uz napatie, resp. ked katody roznych elektroniek nabiehaju s roznou rychlostou, tak v obvode su jednosmerne pomery dost vzdialene od tych ustalenych. Kedze nevidim presnu schemu, tak je tazke povedat co to bude robit v tychto prechodnych dobach a ci sa nahodou nemoze stat ze niekde prdne kond a zvukovody mu posteklia vybochovsie membrany sluchadiel.<br>Ono tie audiofilske zapojenia su casto dost prasacky urobene, takze clovek moze cakat vsetko, ze. Hlavne ze to ma zamatovy zvuk a dobre podanie priestoru.<br><br><br><br>Dňa 2. decembra 2014, 14:29, Zuffa Jan <<a href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk">ZuffaJ@cgc.sk</a>> napísal/a:<br>> Tos aby som to uviedol na pravu mieru<br>> tak je to kolega u nas v praci. nechcel som to konkretizovat lebo sa <br>> to nepatri. takze prosim argumenty "k veci"<br>><br>> .<br>><br>> -----Original Message-----<br>> From: Hw-list [<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] On Behalf Of gatilo<br>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:25 PM<br>> To: HW-news<br>> Subject: Re: Mierny [OT] Elektronkovy zosilnovac<br>><br>> 2.12.2014, 14:22:02<br>><br>> Ech, tedy, ze jsem tak smelý, co je vam po cizich usich ?<br>> ( snad jen v pripade sexualniho partnera, bych bych ochoten, jistou <br>> opravnenost takove starostlivosti pripustit)<br>><br>> S pozdravem Pavel<br>> <a href="mailto:gatilo">mailto:gatilo</a> + zavinac + centrum.cz<br>><br>> --<br>> Zuffa Jan napsal:<br>><br>>> No bojim sa ze s tymi sluchatkami na usiach zaspi nieco tam prdne a <br>>> obhoria mu usi :)<br>><br>><br>>> -----Original Message-----<br>>> From: Hw-list [<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] On Behalf Of <br>>> Jaromir Sukuba<br>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 2:04 PM<br>>> To: HW-news<br>>> Subject: Re: Mierny [OT] Elektronkovy zosilnovac<br>><br>>> A preco vlastne chces nieco argumentovat?<br>>> Nechaj tak, nech sa bavi.<br>><br>>> Dňa 2. decembra 2014, 13:57, Zuffa Jan <<a href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk">ZuffaJ@cgc.sk</a>> napísal/a:<br>>>> Zdravim pracujucich J<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> Dnes ma dorazil #### ked som sa ho opytal ci<br>>>><br>>>> nepotrebuje nieco z farnellu. Stavia totiz elektronkovy<br>>>><br>>>> zosilovac (nieco ako emitorovy sledovac) pre sluchatka<br>>>><br>>>> Napajanie systemu je usmernenych 230V~ (oddelene od siete trafom <br>>>> 1:1)<br>>>><br>>>> , jedna elektronka, pracovny odpor 120Ohm. To co zhana je vystupny <br>>>> kondenzator 2mF.<br>>>><br>>>> Kedze na odpore bude jednosmernych 6 V + superponovana striedava<br>>>><br>>>> zlozka staci teda na napatie 16V a hlavne musi mat nizke ESR<br>>>><br>>>> a SFR mimo audio rozsahu. Udajne je tato konstrukcia hodne rozsirena <br>>>> J<br>>>><br>>>> Jeho vysvetlovanie o strmosti elektronky a vyslednej impedanicii <br>>>> som uz<br>>>><br>>>> ani nevnimal. Neakceptuje ziadne z mojich argumentoch o rizikach<br>>>><br>>>> tohto zapojenia. Najlepsi by preto bol realny pripad zo zivota<br>>>><br>>>> ak teda nejaky niekto mate sem s nim. Vystupne oddelovacie<br>>>><br>>>> trafo zotrel audiofilistickymi argumentami.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> j.<br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>><br>>>> _______________________________________________<br>>>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <br>>>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>>>><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <br>>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <br>>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <br>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <br>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>=<o:p></o:p></p></div></body></html>