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V praxi u běžných převodníků to ale naráží na problém, že uživatel často netuší parametry nastavení.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>V těch 90. letech jsem toho zkoušel moc, i různé sofistikované autodetekce a monostabilní obvody. Ale praxe ukázala, že to nejjednodušší řešení je také nejlepší.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>S pozdravem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ing. Pavel Poucha<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>jednatel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>pavel.poucha@papouch.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel. +420 777 232 485<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Papouch s.r.o.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Strašnická 1a, 102 00 Praha 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel. +420 272 732 827<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Fax +420 272 681 232<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Máte-li chuť, navštivte naše stránky <a href="http://www.papouch.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.papouch.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zapletal Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:54 AM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Spolehlive automaticke prepinani smeru RS485<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Děkuji, moc, mohu poprosit o ten fragment schématu? Stačí část z TTL na 485 s přepínáním...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>MZ</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:p.poucha@papouch.com" title="p.poucha@papouch.com">Pavel Poucha</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz">'HW-news'</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:43 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> RE: Spolehlive automaticke prepinani smeru RS485<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Dobrý den,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>máme ověřené zapojení na přepínání (přes 12.000 ks převodníků jej používá), v podstatě 15 let beze změny. Jestli chcete, pošlu Vám tuto část schéma soukr.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Nebo Vám mohu nabídnout malý TC485 (<a href="http://www.papouch.com/cz/shop/product/tc485-prevodnik-rs232-na-rs485/">http://www.papouch.com/cz/shop/product/tc485-prevodnik-rs232-na-rs485/</a> ), třeba jen desku, a z něj můžete vyndat budič na RS232 a máte to. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>S pozdravem<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>ing. Pavel Poucha<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>jednatel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><a href="mailto:pavel.poucha@papouch.com"><span style='color:#0563C1'>pavel.poucha@papouch.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel. +420 777 232 485<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Papouch s.r.o.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Strašnická 1a, 102 00 Praha 10<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Tel. +420 272 732 827<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Fax +420 272 681 232<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Máte-li chuť, navštivte naše stránky <a href="http://www.papouch.com/"><span style='color:#0563C1'>http://www.papouch.com/</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Hw-list [<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zapletal Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:23 AM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Spolehlive automaticke prepinani smeru RS485<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Omlouvám se, to jak mne tlačí čas. Ale takový překlep je spíše mozkovou nedokonalostí. Je známo, že pokud ve slově přehodíte pár písmen, oko to přečte správně a mozek to správně vyhodnotí, protože prostě ví, co má hledat. Ale počítačům se to moc nelíbí. Ještě jednou sorry...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>MZ</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:pavel.kadecka@gmail.com" title="pavel.kadecka@gmail.com">Pavel Kadečka</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz">HW-news</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Thursday, November 13, 2014 8:18 AM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> Re: Spolehlive automaticke prepinani smeru RS458<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>RS458? Chlapi, dávejte si pozor, co píšete do subjektu. Zkuste to pak najít přes ctrl+F v archivu konference, zde "RS485":<br><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/pipermail/hw-list/2014-November/thread.html">http://list.hw.cz/pipermail/hw-list/2014-November/thread.html</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Kdysi jsem řešil problém s pračkou, někdo už řečil něco podobného přede mnou, ale taková blbost jako electrolux vs. elektrolux způsobila, že jsem to nenašel.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>P.K.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 13. listopadu 2014 8:00 Zapletal Martin <<a href="mailto:zapletal@inoma.cz" target="_blank">zapletal@inoma.cz</a>> napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Krasny den vsem pritomnych.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Vim, ze 485 je vsude spousta, ale velice narychlo bych potreboval pro jednu aplikace ktera s tim nepocita dobastlit komunikaci dvou zarizeni RS485(Raspberry a PICAXE). Proto hledam nejake opravdu spolehlive overene schema toho automatickeho prepinani smeru. Nasel jsem treba tohle <a href="http://pandatron.cz/?1449&konvertor_rs485_s_automatickym_rizenim_prenosu" target="_blank">http://pandatron.cz/?1449&konvertor_rs485_s_automatickym_rizenim_prenosu</a>, ale v diskuzi to nekteri moc nechvali. Bohuzel cas nas tlaci a nemuzeme testovat ruzne varianty. Mate nekdo nejake jednoduche a spolehlive zapojeni(schema) na prepinani smeru 485ek. Par schemat jsem nasel, ale jak rikam cas na testovani moc neni... Klidne pustime i korunku za nejake omercni KnowHow, bo to je akutni...</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Zaplik</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz" target="_blank">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list" target="_blank">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></body></html>