<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dobry den,<br><br></div>dakujem Vam za Vase vysvetlenie. Nechcel som Vas nastvat a ani nijako inak podpichnut, len som bol zvedavy, ci ten princip, je taky isty ako pri plosnych spojoch. Ked pojdete niekedy merat do emc kabiny, tak skuste nad tym trochu porozmyslat, je to velmi podobne. Nehovorim o tom ze lvd a emc su dve zakladne poziadavky pri konstrukcii elektrickych zariadeni. Aj ked vo Vasom pripade to lvd bude asi trochu ine.<br><br></div>A.<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-09-24 13:41 GMT+02:00 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:SvobodovaA@szdc.cz" target="_blank">SvobodovaA@szdc.cz</a>></span>:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div link="blue" vlink="purple" lang="CS"><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">DobrĂ© odpoledne,<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">               kolejnice jsou dobrĂ© vodiÄŤe, je to pořádnĂ˝ kus dobrĂ©ho Ĺľeleza a jsou dvÄ›. TrakÄŤnĂ proud procházĂ, vÄ›tšinou, obÄ›ma kolejnicovĂ˝mi pásy (ale ne vĹľdy) a proudy tam jsou ve stovkách ampĂ©rĹŻ na jednu lokomotivu. V úseku jednĂ© mÄ›nĂrny jich mĹŻĹľe bĂ˝t, a takĂ© ÄŤasto je, nÄ›kolik. U stĹ™ĂdavĂ© trakce jsou proudy v desĂtkách ampĂ©rĹŻ na lokomotivu a pĹ™i rozjezdu jednotky stovek ampĂ©rĹŻ. StejnosmÄ›rná lokomotiva si pĹ™i rozjezdu vezme i tÄ›ch tisĂc ampĂ©rĹŻ.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">               S tÄ›mi proudy je to sloĹľitÄ›jšĂ, protoĹľe v kolejnicĂch je proud trakÄŤnĂ, topnĂ˝ a pak zabezpeÄŤovacĂ. Kolejnice majĂ proti sobÄ› urÄŤitĂ© napÄ›tĂ (cca 2V) a pĹ™itom jsou spojenĂ© </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> Jinak Ĺ™eÄŤeno, pro trakÄŤnĂ proud jsou spojenĂ© a pro zabezpeÄŤovacĂ proud jsou dobĹ™e odizolovanĂ©. VÄ›tšina normálnĂch elektrikářů a elektronikĹŻ nedokáže pochopit, jak to mĹŻĹľe fungovat a uĹľ vĹŻbec ne, jak to, Ĺľe to chodĂ pĹ™i tak malĂ©m napÄ›tĂ </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Saša Svobodová<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> Hw-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrej Jancura<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 24, 2014 1:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Krystalky BYLO: Elektronky: co s nima? (sberna napadu)<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">Dobry den,<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">2014-09-24 12:35 GMT+02:00 <<a href="mailto:SvobodovaA@szdc.cz" target="_blank">SvobodovaA@szdc.cz</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">HezkĂ© odpoledne,</span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span><u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">               no je to tak, Ĺľe proud jde z troleje pĹ™es sbÄ›raÄŤ do lokomotivy, pak pĹ™es motor a kolejnicemi zpÄ›t do mÄ›nĂrny, ÄŤi transformovny na stĹ™ĂdavĂ© části, ten proud se nÄ›kudy vrátit musĂ </span><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1f497d">J</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">Tomuto rozumiem, ze to tak musi byt z principu. Viete, ak to tak teda je, tak tie Vase meniarne musia stihat 160km/h... A na tych kolajniciach by nemalo byt viac ako 30-40V, co je bezpecne napatie. A ked tu zaznelo, ze kolajnice su zly vodic, a aj to, ze virive prudy su znacne velke, teda nepriamo ste naznacili kiloAmpere, tak si to neviem dost dobre predstavit... :)<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">No nic, uz sa nebudem zase hlupo pytat a nedaj Boze filozofovat o tom, ze kolajnice a ine draty casom oxiduju, ked tu bezi tema o krystalkach a radiu...<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt">A.<br> <u></u><u></u></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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