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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Mne sa tie micrel obvody zapacili prave
      preto, ze na "blikace" netreba viac ako par milimetrov stvorcovych
      a vacsinou to zabera menej miesta ako pripojena baterka. A kupoval
      som to na ebay-i od jedneho americana co este v tej dobe posielal
      bez postovneho a nejakych 100-200 kusov tak vyslo na ozaj par
      euro. Ak chcete, mozem par kuskov odstrihnut a poslat, to by bolo
      asi najrozumnejsie...<br>
      <br>
      Jaro Rybarik<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      On 08/29/2014 01:46 PM, Andrej Jancura wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote
cite="mid:CALQx4rL052Sp_FnbX+FsgHNzDKx2BMT0F8rj3Gra96rkNhASTA@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Dobry den,<br>
        <div><br>
          rad by som sa este vratil k Vasim tipom. <br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Obidva typy vyzeraju velmi dobre, az na to, ze z Farnela je
          treba zaratat 4,90... :( Co teda dost favorizuje tunajsi GME s
          vyhliadkovou jazdou z jednej stvrti do druhej a spat.<br>
          <br>
        </div>
        <div>Druha vec je, ze tu 555 strcim do univerzalu, kdezto
          sot23-5 je uz trochu smd ostara, navyse, ked treba robit
          guard-ring. Ale inak si myslim, ze ten micrel vyzera velmi
          dobre a keby bol v dip puzdre, tak by bol v aplikacii
          vhodnejsi nez 555.<br>
        </div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>A. <br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-27 17:39 GMT+02:00 J Rybarik <span
            dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:rybarik@xtech.sk" target="_blank">rybarik@xtech.sk</a>></span>:<br>
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            .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
            <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">
              <div>Este k tejto teme by som doplnil MIC1555 (monostable)
                a MIC1557 (astable). Idu od 3V do 18V, prva strana
                datasheetu uvadza 5MHz a vystupny odpor 15Ohm... Ja som
                ich zatial pouzival len na "blikatka", ale v datasheete
                myslim boli ukazane aj nejake priklady ako MOSFET budice
                a podobne...<br>
                <br>
                Jaro Rybarik
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                  <div class="h5"><br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    On 08/27/2014 09:15 AM, Zuffa Jan wrote:<br>
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                <div class="h5">
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ahoj,</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Linear

                          Technology ma nepreberne mnozstvo oscilatorov
                          napr.</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://sk.farnell.com/linear-technology/ltc6907is6-pbf/ic-oscillator-40khz-to-4mhz-smd/dp/1432110"
                          target="_blank">http://sk.farnell.com/linear-technology/ltc6907is6-pbf/ic-oscillator-40khz-to-4mhz-smd/dp/1432110</a></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">40k-4M (frekvencia riadena
                        odporom + kondenzator) za nejakych 2E.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Na menej ako 3 suciastky sa
                        uz asi nedostanes (ak neratam este  nejake to
                        blokovanie napajania)</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">j.</p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
                          Hw-list [<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                            href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz"
                            target="_blank">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
                          <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrej Jancura<br>
                          <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:24 PM<br>
                          <b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
                          <b>Subject:</b> Re: Tip na variant 555...</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                      <div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">To uz by bol
                            velmi velky "pure" analog... Aj ked ja som v
                            mojej otazke nenapisal, ze by som rad tu
                            frekvenciu menit potenciometrom. To ma
                            napadlo ako typicka aplikacia pre tu 555... 
                          </p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal">A.</p>
                      </div>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"> </p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">2014-08-26 20:30
                            GMT+02:00 Kručinský Ladislav <<a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="mailto:ladislav.krucinsky@linde-mh.cz"
                              target="_blank">ladislav.krucinsky@linde-mh.cz</a>>:</p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS">A takový kacířský dotaz – co
                                  tak zkusit si postavit astabilní
                                  klopný obvod z tranzistorů ?</span><span
                                  lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS">Nebo je to už moc „obsolete“
                                  ?</span><span lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS"> </span><span lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS">Zdravím</span><span
                                  lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS">L. Kručinský</span><span
                                  lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"
                                  lang="CS"> </span><span lang="CS"></span></p>
                              <p class="MsoNormal"
                                style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                                    lang="CS">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""
                                  lang="CS"> Hw-list [mailto:<a
                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz"
                                    target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
                                  <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrej Jancura<br>
                                  <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 26, 2014
                                  5:45 PM<br>
                                  <b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
                                  <b>Subject:</b> Re: Tip na variant
                                  555...</span><span lang="CS"></span></p>
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                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                      lang="CS"> </span></p>
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                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">
                                              <span lang="CS">Dobry den,</span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <p class="MsoNormal"
                                            style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">
                                            <span lang="CS">velmi pekne
                                              dakujem za Vase poznamky.
                                              Ja som uz pozrel na
                                              stranku gme a maju aj
                                              obycajnu aj tu TLC555.</span></p>
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                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                            lang="CS">Zatial mam len
                                            ideovu predstavu na urovni
                                            nejakych funkcnych blokov. Z
                                            tych Vasich poznamok ma hned
                                            napadlo, ze problem bude pri
                                            tej tlc verzii zatazitelnost
                                          </span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">
                                        <span lang="CS">vystupu, nakolko
                                          za tym by mala ist mala
                                          impedancia. Pri normalnej 555
                                          to nie je az taky problem,
                                          nakolko ta by mala dat 200mA.</span></p>
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                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                          lang="CS">Este raz velmi pekne
                                          dakujem.</span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                          lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                    </div>
                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
                                      style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                        lang="CS">A.</span></p>
                                    <div>
                                      <p class="MsoNormal"
                                        style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt">
                                        <span lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                      <div>
                                        <p class="MsoNormal"
                                          style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                            lang="CS">2014-08-26 17:20
                                            GMT+02:00 Petr Labaj <<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz"
                                              target="_blank">labaj@volny.cz</a>>:</span></p>
                                        <div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">Pár poznámek,
                                                co jsem si kdysi na toto
                                                téma napsal:</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">CMOS verze se
                                                liší minimálním napětím,
                                                od kterého pracují.<br>
                                                Jedině LMC555 od
                                                National Semiconductor
                                                má zaručované minimální<br>
                                                napájení od 1.5 V a
                                                TLC555C má typ 1.33V
                                                (max 1.65V), ostatní
                                                jedou<br>
                                                až od 2 V (TLC555,
                                                TS555, ICM7555 atd.),
                                                původní LM555 až od 4.5
                                                V.</span><span lang="CS"></span></p>
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                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                          </div>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">Dost rozdílné
                                                jsou proudové
                                                zatižitelnosti. Např.
                                                TLC555 má (pro L/H)<br>
                                                -100mA/+10mA, TS555 a
                                                LMC555 mají naopak
                                                -10mA/+50mA, ICM7555 to
                                                explicitně<br>
                                                neuvádí, ale vypadá to
                                                tak na -10mA/+3mA,
                                                původní NE555 má
                                                -200mA/+200mA.</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">Ta LMC555 je i
                                                nejrychlejší, jede až do
                                                typ. 3 MHz, ostatní
                                                jedou do 0.1 MHz<br>
                                                (min. puvodní LM555),
                                                0.5 MHz (min. ICM7555),
                                                2.1 MHz (typ. TLC555)<br>
                                                nebo 2.7 MHz (typ.
                                                TS555). Ale je taky
                                                výrazně nejdražší.</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS"> </span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">TI dělá ještě
                                                verzi TLC551, která jede
                                                již od 1 V, max.
                                                frekvence je typ. 1.8
                                                MHz.<br>
                                                Běžně jsem ji ale nikde
                                                neviděl dostupnou,
                                                prodává ji jen Farnell
                                                za dost velké peníze.</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS"><br>
                                                Z CMOS verzí je
                                                nejlevnější a
                                                nejdostupnější TS555, i
                                                parametrově je velmi
                                                dobrá.</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                                              style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                lang="CS">PL</span><span
                                                lang="CS"></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                      lang="CS">-----
                                                      Original Message
                                                      ----- </span><span
                                                      lang="CS"></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt;background:#e4e4e4"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                        lang="CS">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                      lang="CS"> <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:aj.hwlist@gmail.com" title="aj.hwlist@gmail.com"
                                                        target="_blank">
                                                        Andrej Jancura</a>
                                                    </span><span
                                                      lang="CS"></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                        lang="CS">To:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                      lang="CS"> <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz"
                                                        target="_blank">HW-news</a>
                                                    </span><span
                                                      lang="CS"></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                        lang="CS">Sent:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                      lang="CS">
                                                      Tuesday, August
                                                      26, 2014 4:48 PM</span><span
                                                      lang="CS"></span></p>
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                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                        lang="CS">Subject:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""
                                                      lang="CS"> Tip na
                                                      variant 555...</span><span
                                                      lang="CS"></span></p>
                                                </div>
                                                <div>
                                                  <p class="MsoNormal"
                                                    style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span
                                                      lang="CS"> </span></p>
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                                                  <div>
                                                    <div>
                                                      <p
                                                        class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"> <span lang="CS">Dobry
                                                          den,</span></p>
                                                    </div>
                                                    <p class="MsoNormal"
style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:35.4pt"> <span lang="CS">chcel
                                                        by som sa spytat
                                                        vazeneho
                                                        osadenstva, ci
                                                        nahodou neviete
                                                        o nejakom klone
                                                        casovaca 555,
                                                        ktory by isiel
                                                        spolahlivo kusok
                                                        nad 1,1 MHz.
                                                        Normalna 555 ide
                                                        do 0,5MHz, len
                                                        ja by som
                                                        potreboval nieco
                                                        co by islo do
                                                        toho MHz.
                                                        Pripadne neviete
                                                        o nejakom inom
                                                        obvode, ktory by
                                                        dokazal
                                                        generovat
                                                        obdlznik v
                                                        rozsahu 0 - 1
                                                        MHz. Mna napada
                                                        len max038, ale
                                                        mozno niekto
                                                        viete o nejakom
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