<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Dobry vecer,<br><br></div>velmi pekne Vam obom dakujem za tipy. Rozsiril som si zase trochu svoj obzor.<br><br></div>A.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2014-08-27 17:39 GMT+02:00 J Rybarik <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:rybarik@xtech.sk" target="_blank">rybarik@xtech.sk</a>></span>:<br>
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    <div>Este k tejto teme by som doplnil
      MIC1555 (monostable) a MIC1557 (astable). Idu od 3V do 18V, prva
      strana datasheetu uvadza 5MHz a vystupny odpor 15Ohm... Ja som ich
      zatial pouzival len na "blikatka", ale v datasheete myslim boli
      ukazane aj nejake priklady ako MOSFET budice a podobne...<br>
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      Jaro Rybarik<div><div class="h5"><br>
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      On 08/27/2014 09:15 AM, Zuffa Jan wrote:<br>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Ahoj,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Linear
            Technology ma nepreberne mnozstvo oscilatorov napr.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"><u></u> <u></u></span></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><a href="http://sk.farnell.com/linear-technology/ltc6907is6-pbf/ic-oscillator-40khz-to-4mhz-smd/dp/1432110" target="_blank">http://sk.farnell.com/linear-technology/ltc6907is6-pbf/ic-oscillator-40khz-to-4mhz-smd/dp/1432110</a><u></u><u></u></p>

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        <p class="MsoNormal">40k-4M (frekvencia riadena odporom +
          kondenzator) za nejakych 2E.<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">Na menej ako 3 suciastky sa uz asi
          nedostanes (ak neratam este  nejake to blokovanie napajania)<u></u><u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p>
        <p class="MsoNormal">j.<u></u><u></u></p>
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        <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">
            Hw-list [<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrej Jancura<br>
            <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 26, 2014 9:24 PM<br>
            <b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
            <b>Subject:</b> Re: Tip na variant 555...<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">To uz by
              bol velmi velky "pure" analog... Aj ked ja som v mojej
              otazke nenapisal, ze by som rad tu frekvenciu menit
              potenciometrom. To ma napadlo ako typicka aplikacia pre tu
              555... 
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          <p class="MsoNormal">A.<u></u><u></u></p>
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            <p class="MsoNormal">2014-08-26 20:30 GMT+02:00 Kručinský
              Ladislav <<a href="mailto:ladislav.krucinsky@linde-mh.cz" target="_blank">ladislav.krucinsky@linde-mh.cz</a>>:<u></u><u></u></p>
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                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS">A takový kacířský dotaz – co tak zkusit si
                    postavit astabilní klopný obvod z tranzistorů ?</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS">Nebo je to už moc „obsolete“ ?</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS"> </span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS">Zdravím</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS">L. Kručinský</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d" lang="CS"> </span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
                <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="CS">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang="CS"> Hw-list [mailto:<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>]
                    <b>On Behalf Of </b>Andrej Jancura<br>
                    <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, August 26, 2014 5:45 PM<br>
                    <b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
                    <b>Subject:</b> Re: Tip na variant 555...</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                <span lang="CS">Dobry den,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <span lang="CS">velmi pekne dakujem za
                                Vase poznamky. Ja som uz pozrel na
                                stranku gme a maju aj obycajnu aj tu
                                TLC555.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">Zatial mam len ideovu predstavu
                              na urovni nejakych funkcnych blokov. Z
                              tych Vasich poznamok ma hned napadlo, ze
                              problem bude pri tej tlc verzii
                              zatazitelnost
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                          <span lang="CS">vystupu, nakolko za tym by
                            mala ist mala impedancia. Pri normalnej 555
                            to nie je az taky problem, nakolko ta by
                            mala dat 200mA.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                        <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">Este raz velmi pekne dakujem.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">A.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <span lang="CS"> <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">2014-08-26 17:20 GMT+02:00 Petr
                              Labaj <<a href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz" target="_blank">labaj@volny.cz</a>>:<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">Pár poznámek, co jsem si
                                  kdysi na toto téma napsal:</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">CMOS verze se liší
                                  minimálním napětím, od kterého
                                  pracují.<br>
                                  Jedině LMC555 od National
                                  Semiconductor má zaručované minimální<br>
                                  napájení od 1.5 V a TLC555C má typ
                                  1.33V (max 1.65V), ostatní jedou<br>
                                  až od 2 V (TLC555, TS555, ICM7555
                                  atd.), původní LM555 až od 4.5 V.</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">Dost rozdílné jsou proudové
                                  zatižitelnosti. Např. TLC555 má (pro
                                  L/H)<br>
                                  -100mA/+10mA, TS555 a LMC555 mají
                                  naopak -10mA/+50mA, ICM7555 to
                                  explicitně<br>
                                  neuvádí, ale vypadá to tak na
                                  -10mA/+3mA, původní NE555 má
                                  -200mA/+200mA.</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">Ta LMC555 je i nejrychlejší,
                                  jede až do typ. 3 MHz, ostatní jedou
                                  do 0.1 MHz<br>
                                  (min. puvodní LM555), 0.5 MHz (min.
                                  ICM7555), 2.1 MHz (typ. TLC555)<br>
                                  nebo 2.7 MHz (typ. TS555). Ale je taky
                                  výrazně nejdražší.</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">TI dělá ještě verzi TLC551,
                                  která jede již od 1 V, max. frekvence
                                  je typ. 1.8 MHz.<br>
                                  Běžně jsem ji ale nikde neviděl
                                  dostupnou, prodává ji jen Farnell za
                                  dost velké peníze.</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                  Z CMOS verzí je nejlevnější a
                                  nejdostupnější TS555, i parametrově je
                                  velmi dobrá.</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">PL</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" lang="CS">Sent:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" lang="CS"> Tuesday, August 26,
                                        2014 4:48 PM</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" lang="CS">Subject:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"" lang="CS"> Tip na variant 555...</span><span lang="CS"><u></u><u></u></span></p>

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                                          <span lang="CS">Dobry den,<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                        <span lang="CS">chcel by som sa
                                          spytat vazeneho osadenstva, ci
                                          nahodou neviete o nejakom
                                          klone casovaca 555, ktory by
                                          isiel spolahlivo kusok nad 1,1
                                          MHz. Normalna 555 ide do
                                          0,5MHz, len ja by som
                                          potreboval nieco co by islo do
                                          toho MHz. Pripadne neviete o
                                          nejakom inom obvode, ktory by
                                          dokazal generovat obdlznik v
                                          rozsahu 0 - 1 MHz. Mna napada
                                          len max038, ale mozno niekto
                                          viete o nejakom inom obvode.
                                          Dakujem.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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                                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-left:35.4pt"><span lang="CS">A.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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