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Osobne vim, ze mi to je nanic, ale on to taky musi projit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Nyni zacinaji mluvit o derivacich a tezko se mi vysvetluje, ze to je pro nekoho potrebna vec. Osobne jsem na vysce prolezl matematickou analyzou na treti pokusy, v zivote jsem integral nikdy nepouzival, ale myslim, ze je dobre, ze nas to ucili.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>S pozdravem<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'> ing. Jan Galuszka (tel. 00420-603531605, mail: jan@galuszka.cz )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>FANDA elektronik s.r.o. , Těrlická 475/22, 735 35 Horní Suchá,jednatel: ing. Jan Galuszka<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Tel.: 00420-603531605, E-mail: <a href="mailto:info@fandaelektronik.cz"><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>info@fandaelektronik.cz</span></font></a><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>, WEB: <a href="http://www.elektronika.cz/"><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>WWW.ELEKTRONIKA.CZ</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>IČO: 62301802, DIČ: CZ62301802, registrace: Krajský obchodní soud v Ostravě, oddíl C, vložka 7862</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Pavel Kadečka<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:46 AM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> HW-news<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Úroveň maturantů<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tak mě napadá, jestli to tu všichni neberete moc vážně. Pokud někdo studuje elektrotechnickou průmyslovku, tak když už zůstane v oboru = najde si práci v elektrotechnice, stačí mu vlastně jen znát ohmův zákon. To je to hlavní, co by se měl ve škole naučit a ta omáčka okolo je jen k tomu, aby se ho naučil používát.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ale podstatné je to "když už zůstane v oboru". Brácha měl na průmyslovce obor "průmyslová automatizace" a myslíte si, že někdy naprogramoval nějaké PLCčko? Šel dělat ajťáka, nejdřív tam (nějaké gymnázium) šel na civilku, pak tam zůstal pracovat, k tomu si otevřel e-shop, když se kšefty přestaly hejbat, tak ho zase zavřel (resp. prodal) a nakonec s tím ajťáctvím seknul, aby šel dělat trochu lepšího ajťáka, resp. se konečně trochu dostal k tomu, co vystudoval. PLCčka pokud vím stejně neprogramuje, ale už se nestará jenom o blbý kancelářský počítače, ale o nějaké automaty ve výrobě. Myslíte, že při svojí práci použije něco z toho, co se učil ve škole? Programovat nějaký tecomat nebo na čem se to učili?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Podobně já, nastoupil jsem do firmy (a pak do druhé a pak do třetí), kde hlavní náplň mojí práce bylo kreslení schémat rozvaděčů a mechanických výkresů rozvaděčů, něco málo počítání, ohmův zákon je prakticky jediná věc, kterou jsem při práci použil. Plus základní matematika. Nějaké Kirchhofovy zákony, Theveninovy poučky apod., to mi bylo dobré jenom k tomu, abych to zapomněl. Podobně z matematiky integrály, derivace, atd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>A to jsem zůstal aspoň v oboru, řada spolužáků šla dělat něco úplně jiného, například policajta, učitele, grafika... a ti, co vlastně v oboru zůstali ("slaboproudá elektrotechnika", zaměření "elektronické počítačové systémy"), dělají nejčastěji nějaké ajťáky a vlastně nepoužívají skoro nic z toho, co je škola naučila - to by navíc ani nešlo, IT se od té doby radikálně změnilo.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>To samé já, 90% toho, co teď dělám, jsem se naučil až po škole. A některé věci jsem se učil úplně zbytečně, na co je například na průmyslovce čeština nebo dějepis? Ano, "i skladník ve šroubárně si může přečísti Vergilia v originále", ale to je asi tak všechno.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Pavel Kadečka.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></body></html>