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Osobne vim, ze mi to je nanic, ale on to taky musi projit.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'>Nyni zacinaji mluvit o derivacich a tezko se mi vysvetluje, ze to je pro nekoho potrebna vec. Osobne jsem na vysce prolezl matematickou analyzou na treti pokusy, v zivote jsem integral nikdy nepouzival, ale myslim, ze je dobre, ze nas to ucili.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>S pozdravem<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'> ing. Jan Galuszka (tel. 00420-603531605, mail: jan@galuszka.cz )<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>FANDA elektronik s.r.o. , Těrlická 475/22, 735 35 Horní Suchá,jednatel: ing. Jan Galuszka<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>Tel.: 00420-603531605, E-mail: <a href="mailto:info@fandaelektronik.cz"><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>info@fandaelektronik.cz</span></font></a><span style='mso-spacerun:yes'> </span>, WEB: <a href="http://www.elektronika.cz/"><font color=blue><span style='color:blue'>WWW.ELEKTRONIKA.CZ</span></font></a><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'>IČO: 62301802, DIČ: CZ62301802, registrace: Krajský obchodní soud v Ostravě, oddíl C, vloľka 7862</span></font><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Arial><span style='font-size:11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:Calibri;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US;mso-no-proof:yes'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color="#1f497d" face=Calibri><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";mso-bidi-font-family:"Times New Roman";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman";font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";mso-fareast-font-family:"Times New Roman"'> Hw-list [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Pavel Kadečka<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, May 20, 2014 9:46 AM<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> HW-news<br><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: Úroveň maturantů<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Tak mě napadá, jestli to tu vąichni neberete moc váľně. Pokud někdo studuje elektrotechnickou průmyslovku, tak kdyľ uľ zůstane v oboru = najde si práci v elektrotechnice, stačí mu vlastně jen znát ohmův zákon. To je to hlavní, co by se měl ve ąkole naučit a ta omáčka okolo je jen k tomu, aby se ho naučil pouľívát.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Ale podstatné je to "kdyľ uľ zůstane v oboru". Brácha měl na průmyslovce obor "průmyslová automatizace" a myslíte si, ľe někdy naprogramoval nějaké PLCčko? ©el dělat aj»áka, nejdřív tam (nějaké gymnázium) ąel na civilku, pak tam zůstal pracovat, k tomu si otevřel e-shop, kdyľ se kąefty přestaly hejbat, tak ho zase zavřel (resp. prodal) a nakonec s tím aj»áctvím seknul, aby ąel dělat trochu lepąího aj»áka, resp. se konečně trochu dostal k tomu, co vystudoval. PLCčka pokud vím stejně neprogramuje, ale uľ se nestará jenom o blbý kancelářský počítače, ale o nějaké automaty ve výrobě. Myslíte, ľe při svojí práci pouľije něco z toho, co se učil ve ąkole? Programovat nějaký tecomat nebo na čem se to učili?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Podobně já, nastoupil jsem do firmy (a pak do druhé a pak do třetí), kde hlavní náplň mojí práce bylo kreslení schémat rozvaděčů a mechanických výkresů rozvaděčů, něco málo počítání, ohmův zákon je prakticky jediná věc, kterou jsem při práci pouľil. Plus základní matematika. Nějaké Kirchhofovy zákony, Theveninovy poučky apod., to mi bylo dobré jenom k tomu, abych to zapomněl. Podobně z matematiky integrály, derivace, atd.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>A to jsem zůstal aspoň v oboru, řada spoluľáků ąla dělat něco úplně jiného, například policajta, učitele, grafika... a ti, co vlastně v oboru zůstali ("slaboproudá elektrotechnika", zaměření "elektronické počítačové systémy"), dělají nejčastěji nějaké aj»áky a vlastně nepouľívají skoro nic z toho, co je ąkola naučila - to by navíc ani neąlo, IT se od té doby radikálně změnilo.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>To samé já, 90% toho, co teď dělám, jsem se naučil aľ po ąkole. A některé věci jsem se učil úplně zbytečně, na co je například na průmyslovce čeątina nebo dějepis? Ano, "i skladník ve ąroubárně si můľe přečísti Vergilia v originále", ale to je asi tak vąechno.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Pavel Kadečka.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p></div></div></div></body></html>