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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A jako komplet se mi docela libi tenhle
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Getech-assembled-Reprap-Extruder-Hotend-version-2-0-stepper-motor-Nema17-Hot-End-/231042318978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item35cb320282">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Getech-assembled-Reprap-Extruder-Hotend-version-2-0-stepper-motor-Nema17-Hot-End-/231042318978?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item35cb320282</a>
      ale cena je uz dost vysoko, zase ale kdyz se to posklada (motor,
      plasty - ty se asi tezko sezenou jen na extruder, hotend s topenim
      a termistorem...) tak to asi moc levnejsi nebude<br>
      Jeste me zajima - delaji se na 3mm a 1.75mm material, nektere asi
      umi oba kdyz se tam vlozi teflonova redukce, ma nekdo zkusenost,
      ktera sila dratu dava lepsi vysledky? Ten tenky se mozna lepe
      davkuje, ne?<br>
      <br>
      <br>
      Dne 5.10.2013 14:35, Jaroslav Buchta napsal(a):<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Kdyz se da hledat hotend tak to
        vyplivne mraky ruznych a ruzne kompletnich od 500 Kc, i takove
        ty provrtane kostky s dirou na topne telisko, termistor a
        cerviky. Celni limit me zas tak netrapi - tyhle ptakoviny
        vetsinou snad projdou nebo to proste zaplatim.<br>
        Nebo poskladat, zaklad <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heater-Aluminium-Block-Assembly-for-Reprap-3D-Printer-Extruder-HotEnd-Hot-End-/221245897765?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3383487c25">http://www.ebay.com/itm/Heater-Aluminium-Block-Assembly-for-Reprap-3D-Printer-Extruder-HotEnd-Hot-End-/221245897765?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3383487c25</a>
        a topnych telisek, trysek  a termistoru je tam mraky za par
        petek.<br>
        <br>
        <br>
        Dne 5.10.2013 14:04, Petr Labaj napsal(a):<br>
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        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ja jsem nejaky levny
            kompletni hotend na eBay nenasel.</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Mate nejaky tip?</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Pokud by se to melo vejit do
            celniho limitu, tak jedine koupit po dilech </font><font
            face="Arial CE" size="2">(telo, </font><font face="Arial
            CE" size="2">tryska,</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">vyhrivaci kosticka, topny
            clanek), a jako celek se pod tisicovku </font><font
            face="Arial CE" size="2">asi nevejdete.</font></div>
        <div> </div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ja ta tistena kola na
            exteruder mam. Neni to sice zadna hitparada, ale zas tak
            strasne</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">to neni. Ani moc velkou
            mrtvolu to nema.</font></div>
        <div> </div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Navic si myslim (ale jen
            teoretizuji), ze na presnosti by snad nemuselo az tak
            zalezet.</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Pri cuknuti smerem zpet (kde
            by hrozil ten mrtvy chod) jde podle me jen o to, udelat</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">"stop davkovani". Takze je
            celkem jedno, jestli cuknu zpet o milimetr nebo o 2. Pri
            dalsim</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">spusteni davkovani se ta
            mrtvola zase kompenzuje.</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">A pri vlastnim davkovani je
            snad prutok stejne omezeny pruchodem tryskou, takze by to</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">snad melo nejake pripadne
            nerovnomernosti v rychlosti podavani materialu vyrovnat.</font></div>
        <div> </div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Jinak bez prevodu by to snad
            mohlo fungovat taky dobre. Pokud ma motor 0.5 Nm, tak to</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">na ramene delky 10mm
            teoreticky udela 5kg, coz by snad melo byt dostatecne. Ta
            treci</font></div>
        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">sila, ktera ten plastovy
            drat pohani, stejne podle me vic urcite neprenese.</font></div>
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        <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">PL</font></div>
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          <div style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </div>
          <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; font-color:
            black"><b>From:</b> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
              title="jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
              href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz">Jaroslav Buchta</a>
          </div>
          <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
              moz-do-not-send="true" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz"
              href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz">HW-news</a> </div>
          <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, October
            05, 2013 7:53 AM</div>
          <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: 3D printer</div>
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          <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Koukam B je spravne - zadny
            prevod <a moz-do-not-send="true"
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href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-pcs-Leveling-Extruder-Springs-for-Reprap-Prusa-Mendel-3D-Printer-/261254785748?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3cd3ffaad4">http://www.ebay.com/itm/10-pcs-Leveling-Extruder-Springs-for-Reprap-Prusa-Mendel-3D-Printer-/261254785748?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3cd3ffaad4</a><br>
            Je to na zavadu? Jinak mechanika vypada hezky.<br>
            Nebo kde sehnat ty plastove dily jen na extruder? Cela sada
            na tiskarnu se mi kupovat nechce. Hot-end na ebay samotny je
            za par stovek. <br>
            Dne 5.10.2013 7:37, Jaroslav Buchta napsal(a):<br>
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            <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Aha, takze hotend z ty hlavy
              rovnou zahodit a neresit termoclanek, extruder a trysky po
              uprave OK.  Me se nelibi na tech plastovych extruderech ta
              tisknuta kola - to prece nemuze byt moc presne a vzhledem
              k tomu, ze material i couva jak jsem pochopil, tak je
              dulezite aby vule v prevodu byla minimalni nebo aspon
              stabilni, ne? Co je v teto hlave jsem zatim ovsem nenasel,
              je take mozne, ze je to bez prevodu?<br>
              <br>
              Dne 4.10.2013 21:47, Petr Labaj napsal(a):<br>
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              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Nejake zkusenosti
                  treba tady:</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2"><a
                    href="http://www.c-n-c.cz/viewtopic.php?p=120492#p120492"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.c-n-c.cz/viewtopic.php?p=120492#p120492</a></font></div>
              <div> </div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ten stul z
                  jednostranneho cuprextitu jsem puvodne taky zvazoval.
                  Chtelo by si to </font><font face="Arial CE" size="2">s
                  tim</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">motivem trochu pohrat,
                  aby to topilo rovnomerne.</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ale pak jsem to
                  zavrhnul, protoze to by vyzadovalo nizkonapetove
                  napajeni. A protoze</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">na to nechci moc
                  cekat, tak to chce aspon 300W. A to uz znamena docela
                  hovadsky</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">velky zdroj. Proto
                  chci to topeni na 230V.</font></div>
              <div> </div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Sroubovat to nechci,
                  chci mit horni plochu uplne hladkou. Ten muj epoxyd ma
                  napsanou</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">tepelnou odolnost do
                  180C. Doufam, ze tak velky tepelny gradient tam
                  nebude, aby</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Al plocha mela 100C a
                  odpory mely vic nez nejakych 150C.</font></div>
              <div> </div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Hlavne to chci ale
                  konstrukcne udelat tak, ze to lepidlo by tam v
                  principu snad ani nemuselo</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">byt. Bude to Al
                  plocha, na ni rozmistene odpory, ktere uz jen svymi
                  vyvody a bocnimi</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">profily budou drzet
                  distanc. Na to pak nejake 3cm mineralni zateplovaci
                  vlny. Tato vrstva</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">se stlaci
                  prisroubovanou preklizkovou deskou na nejaky 1cm,
                  takze ty odpory budou</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">k Al desce tlaceny tou
                  pruznou vlnou. Takze i kdyby to nahodou upadlo, celkem
                  slusny</font></div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">kontakt by tam stejne
                  zustal.</font></div>
              <div> </div>
              <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">PL</font></div>
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                <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;
                  font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                    title="jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
                    href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">Jaroslav Buchta</a> </div>
                <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
                    title="hw-list@list.hw.cz"
                    href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"
                    moz-do-not-send="true">HW-news</a> </div>
                <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                  October 04, 2013 9:21 PM</div>
                <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: 3D
                  printer</div>
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                <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A netusite jake upravy?
                  Neni to o tom snimani teploty?<br>
                  Je zajimave, ze se vsude vyskytuje v podstate jen
                  tenhle typ jako komplet za rozumnou cenu...<br>
                  Ta deska asi nebude to prave, kdyz tu ctu ty vykony,
                  zase se mo nejak nezda lepeni odporu epoxydem, i kdyz
                  je teplotne celkem odolny, ale co kdyz deska ma 100
                  stupnu a na povrchu keramiky muze byt 150, 200, ...
                  kdyz tam vznikne nejaka vule?<br>
                  Nebylo by treba lepsi tam prisroubovat MOSFETy TO220?
                  Dovedu si predstavit desku s treba 16x mosfet, merici
                  rezistor v S, operak a spolecne rizeny vykon... (asi
                  by sel i bipolar) Je otazka, jak je pripevnit, na
                  slepe zavity by musela byt docela silna deska. Ale co
                  treba oboustranny cuprextit, z jedne strany medena
                  plocha a z druhe motiv s velkymi plochami a
                  priletovane T v SMD? To jsme ale zas asi u te cervene
                  desky (tam jsou odpory nebo jen medeny motiv? )<br>
                  Dne 4.10.2013 20:44, Petr Labaj napsal(a):<br>
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                  <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ta cervena deska
                      je pry dost mizerna. Ma maly vykon, navic teplota
                      pry neni</font></div>
                  <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">rovnomerne
                      rozlozena.</font></div>
                  <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">Ten extruder pry
                      chce nejake upravy, aby byl pouzitelny.</font></div>
                  <div> </div>
                  <div><font face="Arial CE" size="2">PL</font></div>
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                    <div style="FONT: 10pt arial; BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4;
                      font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
                        title="jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
                        href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">Jaroslav Buchta</a> </div>
                    <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>To:</b> <a
                        title="hw-list@list.hw.cz"
                        href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">HW-news</a> </div>
                    <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Sent:</b> Friday,
                      October 04, 2013 8:17 PM</div>
                    <div style="FONT: 10pt arial"><b>Subject:</b> Re: 3D
                      printer</div>
                    <div><br>
                    </div>
                    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">A takova ta cervena
                      deska z eBay nefunguje dobre? Nejak jsem s ni pro
                      zacatek pocital, ani moc nestoji...<br>
                      Jinak se mi docela libi tenhle extruder komplet s
                      topenim a tryskama <a
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-0-4mm-0-3mm-0-2mm-Nozzle-Extruder-Print-Head-for-3D-Printer-/300980695021?pt=US_Print_Heads&amp;hash=item4613d8efed"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-0-4mm-0-3mm-0-2mm-Nozzle-Extruder-Print-Head-for-3D-Printer-/300980695021?pt=US_Print_Heads&amp;hash=item4613d8efed</a>
                      co na nej rikate? Pisou tam, ze ma K termoclanek,
                      takze by se asi musel pridat termistor, aby to
                      chodilo se std. elektronikou... Pak zbyva koupit
                      elektroniku a asi bych sel do systemu C12 <a
                        class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
                        href="http://cnc.inshop.cz/kazetovysystemc-12/"
                        moz-do-not-send="true">http://cnc.inshop.cz/kazetovysystemc-12/</a>
                      ta zvyhodnena sada + par pouzder a tyci a pak
                      zkusit reminky nebo dobastlit srouby (asi spis,
                      levnejsi a presnejsi). Elektronika, ta se sezene
                      komplet za 1500, cili by se rozpocet ani moc
                      nenafouk (navic ten system C12 snad nakoupim bez
                      DPH) <br>
                      <br>
                      Dne 4.10.2013 19:56, Marek Sembol napsal(a):<br>
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cite="mid:CADUfZ8FxuN1QFr=SNgsjsy8VCihrvBferH+WxbKicJ2K=iwBjg@mail.gmail.com"
                      type="cite">
                      <div dir="ltr">hmm, kdyz se rozlozi 530W na 18
                        odporu, tak mi to vychazi skoro 30W na kazdem...
                        <div>Nebo mi nekde neco unika?</div>
                        <div>Marek</div>
                      </div>
                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                        <br>
                        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/10/4 Petr Labaj <span
                            dir="ltr">&lt;<a
                              href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">labaj@volny.cz</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                            solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
                            PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class="gmail_quote">No
                            vida, tak to jsem dospel k velmi podobne
                            koncepci.<br>
                            Dokonce i ty odpory chci pouzit stejne 10W z
                            TME. Jen jich tam chci<br>
                            dat 18 ks, a budou v rovnobeznych radach,
                            abych mohl vzdy pro celou<br>
                            radu ohnout 2 spolecne bocnice.<br>
                            Izolaci chci udelat vrstvou mineralni vlny,
                            kterou to bude jen zakryte,<br>
                            a ktera se k tomu primackne izolacni deskou
                            ze 4mm preklizky.<br>
                            <br>
                            Pokud dobre pocitam, tak Vam to topi na cca
                            130W. Tak doufam,<br>
                            ze tech mych 133W, kolik to da v seriovem
                            usporadani pri pouziti<br>
                            odporu 22R, bude stacit na udrzeni teploty.
                            Pro nabeh to pak da<br>
                            530W, takze start by mel byt rychly.<br>
                            <br>
                            Diky za informace. Mate to na tom webu pekne
                            popsane.<br>
                            Petr Labaj<br>
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                              From: "Šerých Jakub" &lt;<a
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                            Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:19 PM<br>
                            Subject: RE: 3D printer<br>
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                              <div class="h5"><br>
                                Vykon mam myslim kolem 100W. Je to dost
                                hranicni, kdyby bylo 150, bylo by to
                                myslim idealni. Take jsem se naucil pri
                                natapeni pres stolek hodit obycejny
                                papirovy ubrousek, natapeni se tim o
                                nekolik minut zrychli. Blize o mem
                                stolku: <a
                                  href="http://jakub.serych.cz/reprap-vyhrivany-stolek"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://jakub.serych.cz/reprap-vyhrivany-stolek</a><br>
                                <br>
                                Jakub Serych<br>
                                <br>
                                &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                                &gt; From: <a
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                                On<br>
                                &gt; Behalf Of Petr Labaj<br>
                                &gt; Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 2:15
                                PM<br>
                                &gt; To: HW-news<br>
                                &gt; Subject: Re: 3D printer<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; A jaky mate prosim vykon toho
                                topeni?<br>
                                &gt; Jde mi o to, kolik pak staci na
                                udrzeni teploty, jestli by mi stacil ten
                                1/4 vykon,<br>
                                &gt; kdybych to zapojil ve 2 vetvich a
                                prepinal je do paralelniho zapojeni pro
                                start<br>
                                &gt; a do serioveho pro dalsi beh.<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; K tomu privedeni 230V: ta hlinikova
                                deska bude samozrejme uzemnena na<br>
                                &gt; kolik, takze v nejhorsim vylitne
                                ficko.<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Ale to nejdulezitejsi: ja jsem uz
                                davno uzavrel s eletrinou smlouvu o<br>
                                &gt; neutoceni.<br>
                                &gt; Je se k ni chovam vzdy hezky, nikdy
                                ji nenadavam a naopak ji vsude<br>
                                &gt; propaguji.<br>
                                &gt; A ona me za to nekope.<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; PL<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt;
                                ************************************<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; From: "Šerých Jakub" &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:Serych@panska.cz"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">Serych@panska.cz</a>&gt;<br>
                                &gt; To: "HW-news" &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz"
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                                &gt; Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 8:41
                                AM<br>
                                &gt; Subject: RE: 3D printer<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Mno, nevidím úplně optimální mít na
                                hodně "živém" kovovém bastlu (kterým<br>
                                &gt; bezpochyby RepRap je) pod stolkem
                                tvrdých 230V. Ale každý svého štěstí<br>
                                &gt; strůjcem...<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Můj stolek se rozehřívá skoro 20
                                minut, a když ho zapnete ještě před tím
                                než<br>
                                &gt; začnete do kompu nahrávat součástku
                                a generovat G-code, vyjde Vám to tak<br>
                                &gt; akorát.<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Většina nováčků v oblasti RepRapů
                                si myslí, že když si postaví stroj za
                                cca<br>
                                &gt; 10kKč, bude to plnohodnotné
                                Plug&amp;Print. Ale tak to opravdu není!
                                RepRap je<br>
                                &gt; skutečně velmi zajímavý, ale
                                amatérský bastl, a úspěšné vytisknutí
                                návrhu<br>
                                &gt; součástky stojí nemálo času,
                                pokusů, ladění, vzteku z neúspěchů<br>
                                &gt; následovaných radostmi z úspěchů
                                ... Nějakých 20 minut na rozehřátí
                                stolku v<br>
                                &gt; tom času hraje nicotnou roli.<br>
                                &gt; Tak to jen upřesňuji, aby
                                potenciální stavitelé nebyli nakonec
                                zklamaní ...<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; Jakub Šerých<br>
                                &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----<br>
                                &gt; &gt; From: <a
                                  href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz"
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                                &gt; &gt; On Behalf Of Petr Labaj<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, October 03,
                                2013 5:39 PM<br>
                                &gt; &gt; To: HW-news<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Subject: Re: 3D printer<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Mam dilema, zkusim se zeptat
                                zkusenejsich.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Chci objednat odpory pro ten
                                vyhrivany stul. Zvazoval jsem 18ks 10W<br>
                                &gt; &gt; odporu 6R8. Ty by v serii na
                                230V mely topit cca 430W. Regulovat to<br>
                                &gt; &gt; chci triakem vypoustenim
                                period.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Tech 430W je samozrejme o dost
                                vic, nez to bude potrebovat v ustalenem<br>
                                &gt; &gt; stavu. Ale chci tam pouzit
                                vysoky vykon proto, aby nabeh teploty
                                byl rychly.<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Kdyz jsem videl grafy, jak
                                nabihala teplota u tech malo vykonych<br>
                                &gt; &gt; stolu, tak to trvalo treba i
                                10 minut.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Uregulovat to na nejakou 1/5
                                vykonu jiste neni problem. Otazkou ale<br>
                                &gt; &gt; je, co udela elektromer
                                (elektronicky), kdyz bude mit dlouhodobe
                                merit<br>
                                &gt; &gt; spotrebu typu 1 perioda 430W,
                                pak 4 periody nic.<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Pokud pocita zvlast kazdou
                                periodu, tak asi neni problem. Ale aby z<br>
                                &gt; &gt; takoveho prubehu nevypocital
                                neco neprijemne vysokeho.<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Prece jen ty tisky trvaji
                                casto i nekolik hodin.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; Jestli by pak nebylo lepsi tam
                                dat treba odpory 15R a pro start<br>
                                &gt; &gt; zapnout 2 poloviny paralelne,
                                pak je prepnout do serioveho usporadani.<br>
                                &gt; &gt;<br>
                                &gt; &gt; PL<br>
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