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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=DE-AT link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Levne pisty poridite na Ebay, at uz pouzite, tak i nove. Zaroven se daji koupit ruzne male ventilove ostruvky, pekne v sade.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Delka 50cm, je opravdu trochu problem, ale stale si dovedu predstavit malou paku aby byl potreba napriklad polovicni vysuv.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pist s vysuvem 30cm jsem nasel za 19 dolaru.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ohledne pistu s pruzinou, ano, drzi v druhe poloze jen kdyz je pod tlakem, ale vzduch nikam neutika, tzn spotreba je jen pri jednom smeru pohybu.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Navic mate gravitaci, takze v podstate by mohl stacit obycejny pist a dolu dvere nachat brzdit jen pomoci skrticiho ventilku.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Jediny problem muze byt hluk kompresoru, ale jak casto by musel bezet</span><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>? Spotrebu mate jen pri otevirani, pri malem vzdusniku by to mohlo byt jednou za den.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pavel<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=EN-US><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dracek Frácek<br><b>Sent:</b> 28. září 2013 11:37<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Elektormotor s prevodovkou 12V 180Ncm cca 60ot/min?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Kompresor, vzdusnik, selenodove ventily, pisty, male komresory delajit takovy kraval, ze by se musel slozite tlumit aby se drubez neplasila.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>A to me vlastne ani nenapada jak by to melo fungovat, ventil s pruzinou snad drzi v druhe poloze jen pokud je pod tlakem tzn. porad by se do toho musel tlacit vzduch. Nebo se pletu?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>Robustni to mozna je,ale cenove si to moc neumim predstavit dvere se zvedaji o cca 50cm, paky moc nepripadaji v uvahu => docela velky pist atd.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Elektricke reseni teoreticky vystaci s malou baterkou a malym solarnim panelem.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Martin<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Dne 28. září 2013 9:03 <<a href="mailto:hw@itherm.cz" target="_blank">hw@itherm.cz</a>> napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>V tom pripade nejvice robustni reseni je pneumaticky pist </span><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>, navic se hodi do venkovniho prostredi.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pokud pouzijete pist s pruzinou, tak vam ke kazdym dverim povede jen jedna hadicka.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Protoze spotreba bude vzduchu mala, tak podle me bude stacit i maly kompresorek </span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(z auta) a maly vzdusnik.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Pavel</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span lang=CS> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dracek Frácek<br><b>Sent:</b> 28. září 2013 10:59</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: Elektormotor s prevodovkou 12V 180Ncm cca 60ot/min?<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Na drubez :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Jinak receno je to rizeni vekokapacitniho hurniku s 10 (v realu zatim s 6) oddily. Motorky oteviraji a zaviraji dvere (zasouvaci v kolejnicich zavesene a lanku posun cca 7cm/otacka).<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Ovladnai dveri je podle casu, datumu,ale i svetla venku s tim ze to umi pocitat slepice/kachny/husy, pokud se nejaka zpozdi tak zavreni pocka, pokud nedorazi tak ji to nahlasi.Krome toho modul hlida teplotu a vlhkost v kurniku, ridi vetrani atd.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Zakladem je <br><a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103RBT6-Development-Board-W-2-8-TFT-Module-True-Color-Touch-Screen-Panel-/251075980222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a754b6bbe" target="_blank">http://www.ebay.com/itm/STM32F103RBT6-Development-Board-W-2-8-TFT-Module-True-Color-Touch-Screen-Panel-/251075980222?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a754b6bbe</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>vyhledove by to melo mit ethernet a web rozhrani.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Puvodne reseni ovladalo jen jedny dver,e motrek od conrada byl pouzit protoze byl po ruce, kupodivu beha to dva roky bez problemu. V nove verzi bude motoru vice, nebudou v krabici s ridici jednotkou tak hledam nejake jine reseni, pokud mozno i mene nakladne, ale pocet dratu, jednoduchost a robudtnost jsou prvotni pozadavek.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Martin<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dne 28. září 2013 7:54 Miroslav Draxal <<a href="mailto:evik@volny.cz" target="_blank">evik@volny.cz</a>> napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Mohu se zeptat na co to je? Nějak mě nic nenapadá a jsem zvědavý...<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a>] On<br>Behalf Of Draček Fráček<br>Sent: Saturday, September 28, 2013 9:37 AM<br>To: HW-news<br>Subject: Re: Elektormotor s prevodovkou 12V 180Ncm cca 60ot/min?<br><br>Take me to napadlo, ale nevim zda bych si tim nejak pomohl. Dosud pouzite<br>reseni ma kroutici moment 6kg cm. mohu primo pouzit 12V a potak napojit<br>primo.<br>Serva jsou na 6V, zpravidla nejdou pridelat primo na prirubu, s externim<br>potenciometrev v tom vidim spise vice prace nez uzitku. Mozna nekdo poradi<br>servo do ktereho by sel primo vrazit nejaky 10 ot potenciometr.<br>Ve sve podstate by mi z serv vyhovovalo neco jako<br><a href="http://www.modelarina.cz/maxi-servo-hitec-hs785-hb-navijak-p-2016.html" target="_blank">http://www.modelarina.cz/maxi-servo-hitec-hs785-hb-navijak-p-2016.html</a><br>jen 10 otackove a tak za 1/2 ceny :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>*<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>*<br><br><br>Dne 27. září 2013 23:56 Petr Labaj <<a href="mailto:labaj@volny.cz" target="_blank">labaj@volny.cz</a>> napsal(a):<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> **<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> Ja bych pouzil levne modelarske servo. To predelat na furt-otackove<br>> (vetsinou staci ustipnout plastovou zarazku) a vyndal z ni potenciometr.<br>> Servo by otacelo navijecim zarizenim, puvodni potenciometr by to<br>> chtelo pripojit pres prevod 1:10.<br>> Myslim, ze servo a 2 ozubena kolecka porad vyjdou docela levne.<br>> A ridit se to bude trivialne snadno - staci zadat pozadovanou pozici,<br>> a puvodni servozesilovac uz si to zaridi sam.<br>><br>> PL<br>><br>> ----- Original Message -----<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> *From:* Draček Fráček <<a href="mailto:dracek.fracek@gmail.com" target="_blank">dracek.fracek@gmail.com</a>><br>> *To:* HW-news <<a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">hw-list@list.hw.cz</a>><br>> *Sent:* Saturday, September 28, 2013 12:45 AM<br>> *Subject:* Elektormotor s prevodovkou 12V 180Ncm cca 60ot/min?<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>><br>> Shanim elektromotorek, neco jako viz nize ,ale za prijatelnejsi cenu<br>> <a href="http://www.conrad.cz/motor-s-prevodem-modelcraft-rb-35-12-v-1-100.k227" target="_blank">http://www.conrad.cz/motor-s-prevodem-modelcraft-rb-35-12-v-1-100.k227</a><br>> 560<br>><br>> Nebo jinak, Popisu soucasne reseni Mam civku na ktere je navinuto<br>> lanko s "zavazim".Civkou hybe vyseuvedeny motor a je k ni predelan 10<br>> otackovy potenciometr. Bod 0 definuje jedna krajni poloha<br>> potenciometru . Bod 1 lze definovat libovolne v rozsahu potenciometru.<br>> Ridici jednotka pak nedela nic jineho nez ze podle nejakych pravidel<br>> presouva zavazi z bodu 0 do 1 a opacne. Dulezite je aby jednotka i v<br>> pripade vypadku napajeni umela zjistit v jake poloze je civka.<br>> Soucasne reseni vse splnuje, ale jednak motor + vice otackovy<br>> potenciometr stoji cca 600Kc a predevsim dosud byla jedna ridici<br>> jednotka a u ni jeden motor. V novem reseni bych rad mel az 10 motoru na<br>jednu ridici jednotku.<br>> Reseni by melo byt jednoduche a blbuvzdore Motor musi byt samosvorny<br>> tj. i bez napajeni uderet zavazi v dane poloze. Propojeni motorove<br>> jednotky s co nejmene draty, idelane 3 dva nalajeni a jeden informace<br>> o poloze. Rozliseni polohy staci na cca 1/5 otacky.<br>><br>> Diky Martin<br>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>> ------------------------------<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz" target="_blank">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list" target="_blank">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>><br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz" target="_blank">www.HW.cz</a> <a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br>> <a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list" target="_blank">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><br>><br>><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>__________ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 8852 (20130927)<br>__________<br><br>Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><br><br><br><br><br><br><br>__________ Informace od ESET NOD32 Antivirus, verze databaze 8852 (20130927)<br>__________<br><br>Tuto zpravu proveril ESET NOD32 Antivirus.<br><br><a href="http://www.eset.cz" target="_blank">http://www.eset.cz</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz" target="_blank">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz" target="_blank">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list" target="_blank">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz" target="_blank">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list" target="_blank">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>