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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Zas aspon maji presne dany prubeh
      odporu v zavislosti na teplote, resi se to tabulkou a aproximaci
      nebo je definovan polynom pro prepocet odporu na teplotu.<br>
      Ja mel na mysli uz nelinearitu pri mereni odporu, pokud neni
      pouzit zdroj proudu ale nejaka forma odporoveho delice z reference
      prevodniku. A na to staci jednoducha rovnice pro odporovy delic.<br>
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      Dne 6. 5. 2013 7:33, Marek Sembol napsal(a):<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">linearni rozhodne nejsou. Treba zde je to hezky
        videt: <a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="http://www.ojelectronics.com/ETF-xx98-PT1000-923.aspx">http://www.ojelectronics.com/ETF-xx98-PT1000-923.aspx</a>
        <div style="">Marek</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/6 Andrej Jancura <span
            dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:aj.hwlist@gmail.com" target="_blank">aj.hwlist@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span><br>
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            Dobry den,<br>
            <br>
            ja som sa len zastavil pri Vasej povodnej poznamke, ze
            meranie teploty pomocou PT100/0 je nelinearne. Som si vzdy
            myslel, ze tie platinove cidla su linearne...<span
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                <br>
                A.</font></span>
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              <div class="h5"><br>
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                <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/5 Milan Kratochvíl <span
                    dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                      href="mailto:krata.milan@seznam.cz"
                      target="_blank">krata.milan@seznam.cz</a>&gt;</span><br>
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                    <div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Dobrý večer<br>
                      Samozřejmě, že je to špatnou volbou zapojení a
                      měření vůbec, ale prostě tehdy mi to tak stačilo a
                      bylo to rychlé a tak jsem to i podal původnímu
                      tazateli. Co si pamatuji tak když jsem TL082
                      zapojil nesymetricky tak to nechodilo, ale při
                      +/-5V to chodilo a vzhledem k potřebě měřit v
                      rozsahu 100-300°C to plně vyhovovalo. <br>
                      Jinak víc si nepamatuji a to zařízení již není.
                      Nyní měřím teplotu pomocí měření času nabíjení
                      kapacity.<br>
                      Milan<br>
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                      Dne 5.5.2013 17:41, Andrej Jancura napsal(a):
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                          <blockquote type="cite">Dobry den,<br>
                            <br>
                            rad by som sa spytal, ze ci ta Vasa
                            nelinearita nie je sposobena chybnou metodou
                            merania odporu PT100/0 a vlastnostami
                            pouzitych suciastok. <br>
                            <br>
                            Neviem aka je nepresnost pri merani teploty
                            pri roznych zapojeniach PT100/0. Treba vsak
                            pamatat na to, ze najlepsie je merat odpor
                            prudovym zdrojom max. 1uA - 100uA - 1mA
                            kvoli samoohrievaniu PT100/0 a z toho
                            vyplyvajucej chyby teploty postupnym
                            zohrievanim snimacieho telieska odporu.
                            Mozno pri pozadovanej presnosti merania
                            +/-5C je to jedno, aku metodu merania
                            pouzijete, ale treba na samoohrev pamatat.<br>
                            <br>
                            Dalej by som sa rad spytal na vlastnosti tej
                            TL082, pri napajani +/-5V, teda ake ma
                            saturacne napatie vystupu. Moc by som
                            nevsadzal na to, ze ta TL082 je rail-to-rail
                            a pri napajani +/-5V ste uz pri konstante
                            4,18V v oblasti saturacie kedy Vam vystupne
                            napatie padne do oblasti kolena, kedy sa
                            meni linearna prevodova charakteristika na
                            nelinearnu. To zistite pri merani zavislosti
                            teploty na vystupnom napati Vaseho
                            zapojenia. Zial pouzit dobre klima-komoru
                            ide len do cca. 150C, takze netusim ako
                            kalibrovat pri vyssich teplotach nad 200C...
                            To je dalsi problem, ktory treba nejako
                            riesit.<br>
                            <br>
                            Ja osobne by som sa snazil to riesit
                            pouzitim nejakej presnejsej low-cost
                            referencie 1,25V, 16bitovym sigma-delta
                            prevodnikom od Microchipu a nejakym
                            presnejsim rail-to-rail operakom. Myslim si,
                            ze pouzit Analog Devices je pri pozadovanej
                            presnosti teplomera dost drahe a
                            nerentabilne. Skuste si este pozriet APP od
                            Microchipu, maju tiez nejake referencne
                            designy pre meranie teploty s PT100/0.<br>
                            <br>
                            A.<br>
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                            <div class="gmail_quote">2013/5/4 Milan
                              Kratochvíl <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                                  Doufám, že ta 3k příloha není moc.<br>
                                  Výstup jsem přímo posílal do procesoru
                                  a napětí bylo od 0,41V do 4,18V pro
                                  0°C-500°C. Teplotu nejsnáze spočtete
                                  vztahem t=ad*x+y kdy x a y musíte
                                  spočíst nejsnáze ze dvou hodnot
                                  (rovnic) při 0=(ad pro 0,41V)*x+y a
                                  při 500=(ad pro 4,18)*x+y . Jak jsem
                                  psal, není to lineární a přesnost se
                                  dle toho mění. Měl jsem to na regulaci
                                  kotle kde nezáleželo na přesnosti, ale
                                  na zda přidat nebo ubrat a tak bylo
                                  jedno jakou přesnost to má. Vše to
                                  bylo na bastl desce a tak k tomu víc
                                  nemám.<br>
                                  Milan<br>
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                                  Dne 4.5.2013 19:47, Miroslav Draxal
                                  napsal(a):
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                                            style="color:#1f497d">C To
                                            je, já potřebuji hotový
                                            produkt, leptnout desku
                                            osadit, upravit si soft a
                                            jde se měřit. Nemam čas se
                                            v tomto případě učit. Míra </span></p>
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                                                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Hfmcons<br>
                                                <b>Sent:</b> Saturday,
                                                May 04, 2013 4:50 PM<br>
                                                <b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
                                                <b>Subject:</b> Re:
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                                          style="margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span>Zdravím,<br>
                                            Jj, ADC musí být
                                            symetrický(diferenciální)
                                            nebo aspoň 12bit, atd. nebo
                                            vstup zajistit pomocí OZ.
                                            Napájení toho čidla je ale
                                            neméně důležité :-)
                                            linearizační přepočet v C by
                                            měl být k nalezení u AD.<br>
                                            Miloš Dašek</span></p>
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                                          <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jaroslav
                                              Buchta &lt;<a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="mailto:jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz"
                                                target="_blank">jaroslav.buchta@hascomp.cz</a>&gt;


                                              napsal(a):</span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>No
                                                on je problem, ze to ma
                                                dost posunutou nulu -
                                                cili idealni je pouzit
                                                cidlo v mustku a
                                                diferencialni zesilovač,
                                                pak to pobere AD v MCU.
                                                Samozrejme to neni
                                                linearni bez zdroje
                                                proudu, ale to se da
                                                lehce dopocitat.
                                                (nektere MCU i
                                                diferencialni vstup se
                                                zesilenim umi). <br>
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                                                Dne 4. 5. 2013 13:32,
                                                Milan Kratochvíl
                                                napsal(a):</span></p>
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                                            <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Jak
                                                moc to má být přesné a
                                                lineární? Kdysi jsem
                                                něco dělal pro 16f, ale
                                                program jsem psal v asm
                                                a lineární to rozhodně
                                                není.<br>
                                                Milan<br>
                                                <br>
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                                                Dne 3.5.2013 21:55,
                                                Miroslav Draxal
                                                napsal(a): </span></p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Dobrý
                                              den,</p>
                                            <p class="MsoNormal">Neznáte
                                              někdo nějaký jednoduchý
                                              projekt s PT1000 (PT100) +
                                              pic18f (konkrétní
                                              součástky + kód trebas
                                              v C) ? Nějak se mi nedaří
                                              nejít nic jednoduchého.
                                              Vím, je to hloupé, všude
                                              jsou referenční zapojení
                                              atd. Mě to stačí s AD
                                              v pic. Většinou nacházím
                                              s externí AD.  Potřebuji
                                              to orientačně, do 300C.,
                                              tlačí mě čas. Díky Míra  </p>
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