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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body bgcolor=white lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ok,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ku kolektoru Q1 sa da predradit odpor 100ohm co znizi vstupnu impedanciu a po pociatocnom nabiti kondenzatoru<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>uz prud preteka len v spickach<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vystupna zataz sa predpoklada ze bude konstantna<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ale samozrejme zalezi na tom ci ide o jednoduche a rychle riesenie<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>alebo profi. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>j.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaroslav Meduna<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'HW-news'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>To je pravda, ale pri bu</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>zeni signalem jde Q1 do zkratu proti C1 a zaroven vstupni impedance bude hodne mala. Rozhodovaci uroven SQ bude zalezet na vystupni zatezi.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Na toto zapojeni zapomente, je to velmi spatne zapojeni.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zuffa Jan<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 18, 2011 9:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Skuste to objasnit blizsie.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Kludovy odber tohoto zapojenia je 0,5mA pri 12V<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>a da sa este znizit zvysenim hodot odporov.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Tranzistor Q2 moze voci napajaniu spinat LED s predradenym odporom<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>alebo ziarovku do 100mA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>j.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]">[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jaroslav Meduna<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> 'HW-news'<br><b>Subject:</b> RE: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Radsi to nezkousejte, to zapojeni je dobre na likvidaci tranzistoru (pokud to nahodou prezije, pak to bude pekny zrout proudu). JM<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P.S. zkuste treba:<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://www.dz863.com/circuits-7-815979263-MC3405_13.-Squelch-Circuit-for-AM-or-FM-Application-Schematic/">http://www.dz863.com/circuits-7-815979263-MC3405_13.-Squelch-Circuit-for-AM-or-FM-Application-Schematic/</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://docs.rapidlibrary.com/document.php?file=363171&desc=RD58+Squelch+schematic+.pdf">http://docs.rapidlibrary.com/document.php?file=363171&desc=RD58+Squelch+schematic+.pdf</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><a href="http://electroschematics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/squelch-schematic.gif">http://electroschematics.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/05/squelch-schematic.gif</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>P.P.S. Nebo si to nakreslete sam (a uzijte si vyvojarskeho ducha – nebot jak pravi klasik – vsechny zverejnena zapojeni obsahuji alespon jednu chybu, kterou budete muset objevit), v principu se jedna o horni propust, detektor a schmittuv KO na konci.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]">[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zapletal Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 6:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Dekuji mnohokrate, vyzkousim...</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>mz</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk" title="ZuffaJ@cgc.sk">Zuffa Jan</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz">HW-news</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:44 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> RE: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ano lubovolny z BCxxx, akurat zavisi od toho co bude spinane ako zataz<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Ten trimer som tam chel povodne dat (dala by sa nastavovat citlivost)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>ale tak, ze R1 ostava a namiesto R2 trimer 3-10k<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>j.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz">hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz</a> <a href="mailto:[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]">[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz]</a> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Zapletal Martin<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 5:17 PM<br><b>To:</b> HW-news<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Q1 vyhoví libovolný NPN a Q2 libovolný PNP? Třeba něco z řady BCxxx? Místo R1 a R2 trimr aby se to dalo štelovat?</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>MZ</span><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid black 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>----- Original Message ----- <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:#E4E4E4'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:ZuffaJ@cgc.sk" title="ZuffaJ@cgc.sk">Zuffa Jan</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>To:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> <a href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz" title="hw-list@list.hw.cz">HW-news</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Sent:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> Wednesday, August 17, 2011 4:33 PM<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'>Subject:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:windowtext'> RE: kontrola audio vystupu radiostanice<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>R1 a R2 by mali byt nastavene tak aby bol tranzistor Q1 tesne pred otvorenim<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Velkost C1 urcuje zotrvacnost vystupu.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>V jednoduchosti je krasa<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>j.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></blockquote><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='color:windowtext'><hr size=2 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:windowtext'>_______________________________________________<br>HW-list mailing list - sponsored by <a href="http://www.HW.cz">www.HW.cz</a><br><a href="mailto:Hw-list@list.hw.cz">Hw-list@list.hw.cz</a><br><a href="http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list">http://list.hw.cz/mailman/listinfo/hw-list</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></body></html>