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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Nutit zakaznika pozuivat settopbox bez nahravania - fuj<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Okrem toho ta machula co vysielaju sa na obraz moc nepodoba<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Prave preto som si u digi nikdy sattv neobjednal.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Dost casto cestujem na chatu a tam mam druhy prijmac<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>do ktoreho strcim kartu a pozeram. S tym parovanim predpokladam
ze je to nejak tak<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>ze sa v karte na zaklade opravneni rozkoduje kluc na dekodovanie
- CSA Key<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>a tento karta zakryptuje nez ho posle do prijmaca. Kod poznaju
iba karta a prijmac.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Pripadne je tym klucom kryptovana cela komunikacia medzi kartou
a prijmacom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cierny prijem je fajn na hranie, ale doba ked sme tu mali len ucp
je davno za nami<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>a za 9 eur mesacne sa da pozerat uz celkom slusna ponuka ktora
bezne postacuje<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>vacsine uzivatelom.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>j.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>DeeJay<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 15, 2010 10:10 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'HW-news'<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: SAT - karty DlGl v jinych prijimacich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Ja mam prave prijimac s tim modrym plivancem a kusem
pertinaxu </span><span lang=CS style='font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>L</span><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> k tomu
chipu se nedostanu … <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Skoda – myslel jsem ze se karta bude ochotna poparovat
s leccim , když ještě nebyla nikde strcena – tak asi ne. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>UPC ma na kabelovce taky karty parovany na settopbox ale muzete
si od nich koupit CI i s naparovanou kartou a to si muzete strcit třeba do
televize nebo do HTPC <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>DJ<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=CS style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <b>On Behalf Of </b>jan
kuba<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 15, 2010 9:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> HW-news<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: SAT - karty DlGl v jinych prijimacich<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span lang=CS><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>2010/4/14 DeeJay <<a
href="mailto:deejay@email.cz">deejay@email.cz</a>><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Zdravim zucastnene a fanousky
sat prijmu zvlast :-)</span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Tak to opravdu vypada, ze DlGl
to mysli s odriznutim neofiko prijmu vazne a domu mi tedy dorazila nova
dekodovaci karta s podrobnymi instrukcemi co s ni mam delat. Napadlo me ze bych
ji zkusil pouzit ve svem IPBoxu – s tou puvodni to neslo, byla parovana s
prijimacem (coz je mimochodem dost debilni :-( Otazkou je, zda se parovani
provede opravdu az po prvnim vlozeni do prijimace nebo jestli to jiz nastavili
před odeslanim. </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Mam to jen z doslechu, ale <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Dalsi veci je volba spravneho
pluginu ktery bude s kartou spolupracovat – mluvi o prechodu na N@gra3
takze netusim co na to pouzit. Pokud je někdo ochotny se podelit o poznatky
– bylo by to fajn, ten jejich Humax mi opravdu moc nevyhovuje </span><span
lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Parovani karty a prijimace je zalezitost, kdy
provider posle platne dekodovaci klice tak, ze je lze spravne
"pouzit" pro dekodovani obrazu jen pri pouziti spravneho RSA klice (
ten je svazany s ID prijimace) ulozeneho v prijimaci a
spravne dekodovaci karty. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Jsou jedinci, kteri to "louskli"
kvuli sdileni a pomoci JTAGu vytahli z prijimace RSA key a ID boxu.
Jenomze je to no bublic, navic pada zaruka na prijimac - rozebrani , poruseni
plomby. Neco malo o tom zabavnem "zakroku" je videt na tomto
obrazku:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS><a href="http://i18.tinypic.com/4bqykaq.jpg">http://i18.tinypic.com/4bqykaq.jpg</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>jinak nejake strohe info tady: <a
href="http://arhiva.elitesecurity.org/t232155-RSA-Box-kljucici-iz-Digi-TV-risivera">http://arhiva.elitesecurity.org/t232155-RSA-Box-kljucici-iz-Digi-TV-risivera</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Verim, ze to casem cele vyplave ven, osobne si
myslim, ze nema smysl se s tim zabyvat. Jinak souhlasim, ze je to velke omezeni
, kdyz nemohu kartu pouzit v prijimaci , ktery umi treba zaznam streamu. Pri
nahravani poradu pak clovek musi analogovym vystupem tu ubohou kvalitu opet
" zdigitalizovat" - jak zoufale :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Mimochodem co se tyce Skylink karet (
byvale TaT do 0 000285 ) precetl jsem opravneni u toho zakaznika a na
vsech je casovy udaj:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>01.00. 1990 - 31.00. 1990 + samozrejme
chid a popisek, na kterem asi nezalezi. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> Takze zapis vim, jak vypada, ted jeste
jak ho na kartu dostat :-)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Ale to je podobne a zatim no public... :-(<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>díky </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>DJ</span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'> </span><span lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
lang=CS style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>BTW: naprosto nechapu proc se
provider pod hrozbou sankci tak moc snazi ziskat starou kartu nazpet ....</span><span
lang=CS><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>To bylo uz i u karet CZlinku, tam slo spocitat
na starych kartach signaturu a pouzit ji pro nove. Takze tam to bylo z tohodle
duvodu.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Co se tyce NAGRA 3 , uz je take komercne
hacknuta ( celebro card, titanky?? ) , nechapu ten krok vymeny. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span lang=CS>Pri je donutili za soucasneho financniho
prispeni ostatni provideri, kterym utikaly penizky........<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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