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<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Ale porad je tepelne cerpadlo lepsi nez primotop.
Aspon doufam.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Michal Gregor</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
<DIV
style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B>
<A title=novotny.pp@atlas.cz href="mailto:novotny.pp@atlas.cz">P. Novotny</A>
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<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A title=hw-list@list.hw.cz
href="mailto:hw-list@list.hw.cz">'HW-news'</A> </DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 3:16
PM</DIV>
<DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: termoelektricky
generator</DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ono
celkem nemá cenu premyslet nad mechanickym ci jinym resenim takového
stroje.Takovy stroj nelze postavit z principu termodynamiky, at jiz
turbina ci kondenzacni stroj vzdy bude tepelnym strojem u kterého je
ucinnost dana pomerem teplot na vstupu a vystupu. Jinak receno teoreticky a
v ideaonim pripade, kdy bude vse fungovat beze ztrat z takového
stroje vyrazite to co ziskate z TC. Zkratka ucinnost tepelnych stroju je
zalostna.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">Ne
nadarmo se rika, ze jediny rozdil mezi kamny na uhli a tepelnym cerpadlem je
to, ze TC ma komin v severnich cechach. :-)<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Jaroslav Buchta<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:45
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'HW-news'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: termoelektricky
generator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">No to
prave nevim, proto se ptam ;-) Pri vyssi vstupni teplote nez 4stC, jak je
obvykle, by asi nebyl problem vic nez tech 50stC, ne?</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">A pak
to medium normalne kondenzuje, hnat pres nejakou turbinu by to s rozumnou
ucinnosti neslo? Nebo nejaky pistovy kondenzacni stroj?</SPAN><SPAN
style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">-----Original
Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz
[mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <B>On Behalf Of </B>P.
Novotny<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 2:00 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
'HW-news'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: termoelektricky generator</SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US style="COLOR: windowtext"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">A
jak si predstavujete prevod nizkopotencialniho tepla na mechanickou energii?
Cele slavne tepelne cerpadlo vam vodu neohreje na vice nez </SPAN><SPAN
lang=EN-US
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">~</SPAN><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-FAMILY: 'Calibri','sans-serif'">50C
respektive lze i vice, ale cim vetsi teplotu potrebujete tim horsi je
ucinnost celeho toho bazmeku.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 'Tahoma','sans-serif'">
hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz [mailto:hw-list-bounces@list.hw.cz] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Jaroslav Buchta<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:20
PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'HW-news'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: termoelektricky
generator<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Tak
jsem cestou na kole zas jednou premyslel a treba nekoho napadne, co je
spatneho na myslence ziskavat el. nebo tepelnou energii pomoci tepelneho
cerpadla, samozrejme bez dalsi privedene
energie?</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; COLOR: blue; FONT-FAMILY: 'Arial','sans-serif'">Dejme
tomu v lete neni problem ziskat z okoli 3x - 4x vic tepelne energie nez
spotrebuje kompresor, myslenka je prevest takto ziskane teplo na
rotacni nebo elektrickou energii a tou opet pohanet kompresor. Tusim, ze
hacek je v tom prevodu z tepelne energie na mechanickou, ale stacila by
ucinnost tak 25% aby to bylo sobestacne, ne? Takovy stroj neexistuje?</SPAN>
<o:p></o:p></P>
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